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> Smart developers are leaving. I'm in Ōtepoti/Dunedin (best city in NZ!), and within my social network most developers work remotely for overseas companies.

xupybd 3y ago
Good to meet you. I'm in Palmy, (most average city in NZ). That is something I need to look into. I'm guessing now is a bad time to be looking for international work. It seems like the job market is not great internationally.
flog 3y ago
Kia ora from Tauranga 100%. There are 2 NZ employment markets. Those working for NZ companies in the $100k region, and those working for US firms for the $200+k region. I've had an annoying time explaining this to past US employers when they present median values for NZ salary fudge factors.
- jiggawatts 3y ago
  Where do people find jobs in the US that can be done from outside the US? The few job boards I've seen all have either low salaries, or are US-only...
  - bacon_waffle 3y ago
    I got my first remote gig (firmware work) through a friend's referral, however that was years before COVID-19. These days I'd suggest looking for a remote-first company. Or, maybe apply for remote gigs that say US-only (assuming there's not an obvious or stated reason), then bring up your location when talking to a real human. FWIW - technically I run a NZ company, so am a contractor and not an employee of the company that my day-to-day manager works for. This arrangement seems to be common among people who work for US companies, or are US citizens, which brings up some questions about the stats in the article...
  - veb 3y ago
    People tend to post interesting jobs that they find in the #jobs channel on the DevelopNZ Slack if it's something you're interested in.
- llamaLord 3y ago
  You forgot all the Kiwis working remote for Atlassian and Canva in the $200+k region. My team of ~12 is nearly ~30% kiwi at this point.
veb 3y ago
this city is so damn small, I didn't even need to know your real name to know who you were :D All you other NZ devs should join the Slack server I founded for IT people in NZ. https://dev.elop.nz/ https://dev.elop.nz/ a lot of us work remotely. We have a dedicated jobs channel and all - we also have some very good recruiters. (700ish people)

xupybd 3y ago

Good to meet you. I'm in Palmy, (most average city in NZ). That is something I need to look into. I'm guessing now is a bad time to be looking for international work. It seems like the job market is not great internationally.

flog 3y ago

Kia ora from Tauranga 100%. There are 2 NZ employment markets. Those working for NZ companies in the $100k region, and those working for US firms for the $200+k region. I've had an annoying time explaining this to past US employers when they present median values for NZ salary fudge factors.

jiggawatts 3y ago
Where do people find jobs in the US that can be done from outside the US? The few job boards I've seen all have either low salaries, or are US-only...
- bacon_waffle 3y ago
  I got my first remote gig (firmware work) through a friend's referral, however that was years before COVID-19. These days I'd suggest looking for a remote-first company. Or, maybe apply for remote gigs that say US-only (assuming there's not an obvious or stated reason), then bring up your location when talking to a real human. FWIW - technically I run a NZ company, so am a contractor and not an employee of the company that my day-to-day manager works for. This arrangement seems to be common among people who work for US companies, or are US citizens, which brings up some questions about the stats in the article...
- veb 3y ago
  People tend to post interesting jobs that they find in the #jobs channel on the DevelopNZ Slack if it's something you're interested in.
llamaLord 3y ago
You forgot all the Kiwis working remote for Atlassian and Canva in the $200+k region. My team of ~12 is nearly ~30% kiwi at this point.

veb 3y ago

this city is so damn small, I didn't even need to know your real name to know who you were :D All you other NZ devs should join the Slack server I founded for IT people in NZ. https://dev.elop.nz/ https://dev.elop.nz/ a lot of us work remotely. We have a dedicated jobs channel and all - we also have some very good recruiters. (700ish people)