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> you need to strengthen the system by excluding or restricting malicious actors. And how do we strenghten the system? By supressing people that demand change
by gumballindie 3y ago
> you need to strengthen the system by excluding or restricting malicious actors.
And how do we strenghten the system?
By supressing people that demand change? Isn't it obvious by now that poverty and daily struggles are pushing folks towards extremes EU wide? Surely the EU and member states should listen to people's problems.
Supressing legitimate cries of help will only lead to more frustration.
Every year europeans are poorer, more taxed, more regulated, their quality of life dropping, european capitals are unsafe, innovation lags, and so on, and the only parties that at least aknowledge their grievances are these extremes that we want to ban.
We ban them, then what? Do we offer a viable alternative, one that goes beyond lecturing? No, we want to ban them without actually listening to folks.
I don't Russia is capable of more than letting us dig our own grave.
Also what did Germany do to restrict "malicious actors" prior to the war?
It imposed its will on member states that knew _exactly_ what Russia is planning.
> Let's say Russia decides to troll your system by paying for staged Koran burnings in Sweden [1].
Have you actually looked into the underlying issues that cause what's happening in Sweden? Have you spoken to immigrants and how they are treated in that country, and have you been to the ghettos where they have to live? If you did you'd have a better understanding why Russia finds it so easy to stir trouble in there. The all welcoming, all loving, country of Sweden has some deep deep issues it needs to solve before it passes blame on Russia.
But this is just another example of how we try to solve the sympton instead of the cause.
- the_lego 3y ago> And how do we strengthen the system? According to the founder of the migrant sea rescue NGO Mission Lifeline [1], by importing more immigrants and giving them voting rights, to overwhelm the native population's vote: If there had been enough immigration from abroad (e.g., by abolishing the visa requirement for Afghans and other persecuted people), and if these people had been given the right to vote immediately, (the German district of) Sonneberg would not be an issue today. Therefore: Open the borders! - https://twitter.com/Axel_Steier/status/1673019802523254785 https://twitter.com/Axel_Steier/status/1673019802523254785 [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mission_Lifeline https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mission_Lifeline
- gumballindie 3y agoYup, that will clearly steer people away from political extremes.