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Correct, specifically front-line EM roles. I added clarification.

• hn_throwaway_99 3y ago
  Not quite sure what you mean here. "Front-line EM" is still in much worse shape than ICs. While you may argue that front-line EM is not technically "middle" management, I think a lot of companies realize they can be much leaner at pretty much all levels of engineering management - e.g. have a "tech lead" or similar role do much of the work that was previously under an engineering manager. If you're not willing/can't write and ship code, companies are taking a much harder look at those roles.
  • jh00ker 3y ago
    I think of front-line managers (of ICs) as part of "middle management" (anything "in the middle" between ICs and executives) but I can see how some might think of middle management as managers of managers. Anyway, that's why I added the clarification. To your point, yeah, I'm also seeing a lot more "hands on" call outs in JDs for EMs, if not writing code, at least doing code reviews.