Yep. We too our whole team to DEF CON every year since 2015. (We’re an infosec team of around 40). After last year I made the call to ditch it and we took them

Yep. We too our whole team to DEF CON every year since 2015. (We’re an infosec team of around 40). After last year I made the call to ditch it and we took them to Banff this year and did fun outdoor stuff, spouses and partners included. Not a single person missed it. And suddenly spouses wanted to come too. DEF CON has become super lame. Basically a giant corporate event center with long lines and uninspiring talks and booths. And Vegas is filled with people at their worst being exploited. Not sure I’ll ever go back.