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>Yeltsin staged a coup with the help of the US A blatant lie that keeps getting repeated. Yeltsin hired some American campaigners and advertisers because he wa
by 0xDEF 3y ago
>Yeltsin staged a coup with the help of the US
A blatant lie that keeps getting repeated. Yeltsin hired some American campaigners and advertisers because he wanted a loud Western-style election campaign. It's funny how Yeltsin having American campaign/advertising advisers has been spun into claims that the US did a coup in Russia.
- saiya-jin 3y agoEverything is a coup,conspiracy or similar if things are not to your liking... but yeah dealing with official russian news you'll get significantly more truth if you simply negate everything they say, lie is official tool and all sides understand that. One thing west didn't properly grok - russia was never your friend. Never, ever. There was no period where this was true, not even in 90s, not when we talk about people on top. Paranoid suspicion and fear of losing power to steal and control entire country was too much for those in power. Especially since now you could actually steal last bolt and nut, unlike during communism where everything was state owned by definition and you competed only for power trip and some basic benefits on top of what many others had.
- mushbino 3y agoThis is just an anti-Russia rant with no historical substance. Can you tell us the last time the news in the US spoke critically of a foreign war at the time?
- fractallyte 3y agoThe parent poster's statement is accurate, with ample evidence apparent from the current war in Ukraine. The Kremlin lies, period. And a government composed of people who lie, backstab, and cheat each other and their population to this extent - again, with ample evidence from history since 1917 - is NEVER to be trusted, and ALWAYS an enemy.
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- orbital-decay 3y agoThat's a strawman. Those 3 PR clowns and another British consultant weren't working for the US government and didn't do anything useful for Yeltsin anyway, Filatov basically carried the campaign on his own (not without the huge amount French/German loan money stolen by Yeltsin and paid to the Gusinsky and co). The actual US involvement was in lots of the NGO work, openly sold under the guise of the fight against the communist reaction, paid with US taxpayers money. Which it actually was! No argument against that, Zyuganov and the return of communism/nomenklatura were genuine threats. The only problem was that people now wanted Yeltsin out because he was even worse. Clinton/Gore administration openly aligned themselves with Yeltsin/Chernomyrdin, their "friendship" with the autocrat was a big and visible thing. They ignored all the red flags and helped to create the problem they tried to "fight" later, despite of the existence of much more prominent politicians who were clean and principled enough (ex. Nemtsov, who was hugely popular before that campaign and publicly declined to run for the president when he heard about Clinton's support for Yeltsin). Regardless of the extent of the actual involvement (it was probably not that strong), it was enough for many in Russia to despise them and call it a collusion, which it at least partly was - absolutely open and marketed as something noble, without any conspiracy. Denying that is silly.
- mushbino 3y ago"having American campaign/advertising." He literally ordered tanks to shell the Parliament building because they didn't vote the way he wanted them to. The way that US told him they should.
- FreshStart 3y agoYes, yeltsin did a south America style coup..
- orbital-decay 3y agoNobody "told him to", he was perfectly capable to do that himself to not lose the power.