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I don't disagree with the central thesis, and you can argue all sorts of moments for the fall of the Republic, but the establishment of client armies started wi
by thom 3y ago
I don't disagree with the central thesis, and you can argue all sorts of moments for the fall of the Republic, but the establishment of client armies started with Marius, not Caesar. Even then, it was in response to political, economic and military issues which predated even Tiberius Gracchus whose tribunate many use to mark the beginning of the end. Rome's constitution was a marvel, as noted by Polybius, and it granted stability for a long time. But by the time of Sulla (who marched an army into Rome decades before Caesar), all pretence of a government that intended to give equal voice to all factions had disappeared. The idea that Ceasar or Octavian dismantled a functioning or even salvageable republic seems fanciful to me.
- philipov 3y agoI would go back even farther, all the way to the end of the Second Punic War. Scipio Africanus was the one who expanded the practice of client-patron relationships to a geopolitical scale to build an independent power base. He was also the innovator of the cults of personality that would become common. He never tried to overthrow the republic, but some of the political practices used to destabilize the late republic can be traced back to his innovations.