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> RIAA is alleging that youtube-dl is a copy protection circumvention tool "(3) As used in this subsection— (A) to “circumvent a technological measure” means t
by akira2501 3y ago
> RIAA is alleging that youtube-dl is a copy protection circumvention tool
"(3) As used in this subsection— (A) to “circumvent a technological measure” means to descramble a scrambled work, to decrypt an encrypted work, or otherwise to avoid, bypass, remove, deactivate, or impair a technological measure, without the authority of the copyright owner; and (B) a technological measure “effectively controls access to a work” if the measure, in the ordinary course of its operation, requires the application of information, or a process or a treatment, with the authority of the copyright owner, to gain access to the work"
The argument would seemingly be that youtube is in no way "effectively controlling access to a work." And none of the peculiar details of it's implementation are designed to operate in this capacity. Quite the opposite, it's technology is designed to broadcast, for the purposes of inserting ads, content to anyone who merely requests it.
Moreover, youtube is in no way connecting the "authority of the copyright owner" with the particular videos on it's site and has nothing but an ad-hoc system with limited availability that takes action only after content is uploaded. As there are many videos that are past copyright protection or have been explicitly released into the public domain, and they make no distinction in the "technical measures" used in those videos, that they aren't effectively controlling access, and the tools aren't circumventing them for this purpose.
- sillysaurusx 3y ago> Moreover, youtube is in no way connecting the "authority of the copyright owner" with the particular videos on it's site Of course it is. That's the whole point of the three strike system.
- backtoyoujim 3y agoWhy is there yet another legal framework with basis for legal jurisprudence being a rule from a child's game ?
- sillysaurusx 3y agoThe question is whether youtube connects the authority of the copyright owner with particular videos. It obviously does. The copyright owner is the entity that receives ad revenue, and the entity that can strike videos that violates its copyright.
- fsckboy 3y ago>The copyright owner is the entity that receives ad revenue to be sure, google receives ad revenue. they redistribute a portion of it, yes, to the copyright holders
- kedean 3y agoRules of three/trinities are incredibly common in human societies, does the choice of naming affect anything very much? I also feel like it's a bit disingenuous to refer to baseball as a "child's game", when most people know it for the professional variety played by high end athletes.
- mcpackieh 3y ago3 violations is enough to establish a trend, while giving people a little bit of leeway for the first and second violations since they may not know / understand the rules. 3 strike rules are formulated because there is a general consensus that such rules are fair and just, not because people like baseball.
- closewith 3y agoInteresting to see that take. As a outsider, three-strike laws have always seemed to be a uniquely American form of injustice, leading to overpunishnent. It's disappointing (and a little chilling, considering the global policies of the tech giants originate in the US) to think some people might consider them fair or just.
- mcpackieh 3y agoTwo 'second' chances seems generous to me. How many would you give before acknowledging a pattern of willful violation?
- extraduder_ire 3y agoI am startled, and also glad, that record labels haven't put the screws to youtube enough to get them to implement widevine for music videos on youtube. Probably unworkable for the time being.
- ComposedPattern 3y agoI'm currently feeling the need to back up youtube videos that are important to me, because I figure it will be much harder soon.
- Modified3019 3y agoThey definitely will be, now that google is looking to more proactively enforce ads. But the biggest danger is that videos and channels can get removed by any, all, or no reason. -Copyright middlemen/parasites -Trolls -Shifts in what’s politically or advertiser acceptable (see: https://www.reddit.com/r/youtube/comments/14ddlng/unalived/ https://www.reddit.com/r/youtube/comments/14ddlng/unalived/) -Massive data loss (see myspace) -And especially the capricious whims of the channel owner. A few years ago I realized an old playlist of mine was basically swiss cheese due to how many videos had been removed. If you value it, save it now, because it will be gone sooner than you are prepared for. There are many ways to handle automated saving of channels, including some gui frontends, but offhand the one I use and modify is: https://github.com/TheFrenchGhosty/TheFrenchGhostys-Ultimate-YouTube-DL-Scripts-Collection/ https://github.com/TheFrenchGhosty/TheFrenchGhostys-Ultimate...
- boopmaster 3y agoI have music playlists turned to swiss cheese on paid streaming music services, and it's for that reason that I've turned to doing the unthinkable: buying mp3s like some kind of devolved luddite.
- Pannoniae 3y agoSoulseek is your friend.