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Please. Elon is just some guy who lucked into billions and talks too much for his own good. He isn’t an engineer, he isn’t a scientist, he’s just some guy with

Please. Elon is just some guy who lucked into billions and talks too much for his own good. He isn’t an engineer, he isn’t a scientist, he’s just some guy with a huge cult following selling a brand to crypto bros, finance bros, “entrepreneurs” and “influencers” with a supposed rags to riches story despite the fact that his own father said they had a stake at an emerald mine. Elon’s big mouth got the better of him again, proving he’s nothing special. Only a moron would get into a dick measuring contest with a guy with years of proper martial arts training and challenge him while being totally untrained. > Zuckerberg revealed on Sunday on Threads — part of his Meta social media catalog — that he is no longer going to try and book a fight with the Twitter owner until Musk starts to take things more seriously. > “I think we can all agree Elon isn’t serious and it’s time to move on,” Zuckerberg stated. “I offered a real date. Dana White offered to make this a legit competition for charity. Elon won’t confirm a date, then says he needs surgery, and now asks to do a practice round in my backyard instead.

__pache__ 3y ago
He's literally the richest man in the world, what?
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- GaggiX 3y ago
  So, what is it that you are trying to say that you feel the parent comment was wrong about?
  - __pache__ 3y ago
    That it's just luck you win 50 dice rolls in a row, calling them each time. Maybe he knows something you don't, if you can't see it. Pretty clearly beyond luck at this point. It's like a weird defense mechanism because you're jealous. "He's just a crypto bro." Pretty hilarious.
    - PartiallyTyped 3y ago
      What I find hilarious is people's inability to grasp probability and sample sizes. I don't think he won 50 dice rolls in a row, not remotely close actually. The first win was the time and place he was born into, his father had a stake at an emerald mine and he was right on cue for the dot com era, he had Canadian citizenship by birth, and his immigration to the US was trivial, he had the connections and the money. One does not need 50 dice rolls to get there; a single roll of the dice has insane consequences, ask all the people from China or India playing the visa and green-card lottery because they happened to be born in China or India. I never said he's just a crypto-bro either, you are just in denial. I said he's some guy who played crypto-bros and investment bros like a fiddle. He sold a brand, is currently facing market manipulation and insider trading investigations [1], and pumped a crypto coin (ie something totally unregulated). He had the money in the first place in there, and he had the influence. If you have no morality, you need to be a moron not to do that given that you can do it. [1] https://www.forbes.com/sites/digital-assets/2023/06/03/market-manipulation-and-insider-trading-elon-musk-and-tesla-are-facing-a-fresh-nightmare-challenge/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/digital-assets/2023/06/03/marke...
      - __pache__ 3y ago
        I bet you won just as many dice rolls and you're no where near his success.. lol How did he find success with Paypal? What about before that?
        GaggiX 3y ago
        >you're no where near his success @PartiallyTyped you do not have billions of dollars, your opinion has been invalidated ahaha
        __pache__ 3y ago
        who said that?! goahead and have an opinion about the NFL armchair quarterback, but we both know who is the better quarterback (CEO)
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panick21_ 3y ago
That Musk success is luck is just beyond fucking stupid. Like at some point one has to be able to look beyond personal dislike. But I guess some people just can't get over that. What you assert his success to is just complete nonsense. Like, i cant even fatherm how somebody can believe that crap. Do you honestly 2 million Teslas will be sold this year and its all to cult followers and crypto bros? Do you have any clue how the car market work? Currently the DoD, NASA and ESA relies on SpaceX. Literally the 2 of the 3 largest space agencies on relay on him. But I guess those are all crypto bros too. You seriously sound about as deranged as the most pro-Musk crypyo bro.
- PartiallyTyped 3y ago
  It's funny, you claim that I am misattributing Musk's success, and at the same time you are misattributing the success of a company bought by Elon and carried by people who bought into the idea into long hours of work with little pay, bad conditions, and lots of racism [1,2] while being overvalued[3] and whose self-anointed CEO is under investigation for market manipulation and insider trading [4]. I want to draw attention to your own language, here: > Currently the DoD, NASA and ESA relies on SpaceX. Literally the 2 of the 3 largest space agencies on relay on him. In particular the pronoun. The space agencies do not rely on "him", they rely on SpaceX and the people working there, not specifically on Musk. Musk is not doing any engineering, designing, science, or manufacturing. What Elon is doing is selling an idea through his brand which attracts the people who do the actual work. --- > That Musk success is luck is just beyond fucking stupid. Notice that I didn't attribute his success to sheer dumb luck. I was rather particular in my language. Being born into money opens many doors for you. Just from an immigration standpoint, he could at any point immigrate to the US because he could "invest" in some company and earn a visa to stay. He had a Canadian citizenship by birth, born into a family of immense wealth. Those things already put him in 3rd base and enable him to do more. He never had to deal with immigration issues or green-card lotteries or anything of this nature while people who were smarter, or better engineers, or whatever else are battling immigration processes. He was literally born at the right time and had the money to be an adult with money in the dot-com era. Just from the sheer number of people who were in that position - and many were - somebody had to land to the top. That's kinda how sampling works, even if the chance is very low, given enough samples it happens, and if you are dealing in ordinals; then for any number of people a 1st, 2nd, 3rd etc must exist. I didn't attribute everything to sheer luck, and your fanboyism shows. Musk may not be an engineer or a scientist, but he certainly knew how to cultivate a brand and inspire people. He has severely tarnished said brand over the last few years, e.g. calling a diver a peadophile out of nowhere, the whole twitter fiasco, everything related to market manipulation and insider trading... ---- As for concerns over jealousy; even if I was a billionaire my life wouldn't change. I am paid multiple times over what I need. My work is just 10h of meetings, the other 30 hours or so of programming I would do for free. I mean, I program for free at my down time any way... Most importantly, I have great relationships with my family and friends, and we are all healthy and thriving. I could never imagine my children cutting me off their lives, and there's no amount of money, or fame or any other ephemeral or fleeting desires that can ever be worth losing that. [1] https://www.reuters.com/legal/jury-orders-tesla-pay-32-mln-black-ex-worker-us-race-bias-case-2023-04-03/ https://www.reuters.com/legal/jury-orders-tesla-pay-32-mln-b... [2] https://finance.yahoo.com/news/pays-employees-better-elon-musk-181302605.html?guccounter=1 https://finance.yahoo.com/news/pays-employees-better-elon-mu... [3] https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/tesla-stock-1000-percent-overvalued-26-elon-musk-david-trainer-2023-7 https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/tesla-stock-... [4] https://www.forbes.com/sites/digital-assets/2023/06/03/market-manipulation-and-insider-trading-elon-musk-and-tesla-are-facing-a-fresh-nightmare-challenge/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/digital-assets/2023/06/03/marke...

__pache__ 3y ago

He's literally the richest man in the world, what?

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GaggiX 3y ago
So, what is it that you are trying to say that you feel the parent comment was wrong about?
- __pache__ 3y ago
  That it's just luck you win 50 dice rolls in a row, calling them each time. Maybe he knows something you don't, if you can't see it. Pretty clearly beyond luck at this point. It's like a weird defense mechanism because you're jealous. "He's just a crypto bro." Pretty hilarious.
  - PartiallyTyped 3y ago
    What I find hilarious is people's inability to grasp probability and sample sizes. I don't think he won 50 dice rolls in a row, not remotely close actually. The first win was the time and place he was born into, his father had a stake at an emerald mine and he was right on cue for the dot com era, he had Canadian citizenship by birth, and his immigration to the US was trivial, he had the connections and the money. One does not need 50 dice rolls to get there; a single roll of the dice has insane consequences, ask all the people from China or India playing the visa and green-card lottery because they happened to be born in China or India. I never said he's just a crypto-bro either, you are just in denial. I said he's some guy who played crypto-bros and investment bros like a fiddle. He sold a brand, is currently facing market manipulation and insider trading investigations [1], and pumped a crypto coin (ie something totally unregulated). He had the money in the first place in there, and he had the influence. If you have no morality, you need to be a moron not to do that given that you can do it. [1] https://www.forbes.com/sites/digital-assets/2023/06/03/market-manipulation-and-insider-trading-elon-musk-and-tesla-are-facing-a-fresh-nightmare-challenge/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/digital-assets/2023/06/03/marke...
    - __pache__ 3y ago
      I bet you won just as many dice rolls and you're no where near his success.. lol How did he find success with Paypal? What about before that?
      - GaggiX 3y ago
        >you're no where near his success @PartiallyTyped you do not have billions of dollars, your opinion has been invalidated ahaha
        __pache__ 3y ago
        who said that?! goahead and have an opinion about the NFL armchair quarterback, but we both know who is the better quarterback (CEO)
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panick21_ 3y ago

That Musk success is luck is just beyond fucking stupid. Like at some point one has to be able to look beyond personal dislike. But I guess some people just can't get over that. What you assert his success to is just complete nonsense. Like, i cant even fatherm how somebody can believe that crap. Do you honestly 2 million Teslas will be sold this year and its all to cult followers and crypto bros? Do you have any clue how the car market work? Currently the DoD, NASA and ESA relies on SpaceX. Literally the 2 of the 3 largest space agencies on relay on him. But I guess those are all crypto bros too. You seriously sound about as deranged as the most pro-Musk crypyo bro.

PartiallyTyped 3y ago
It's funny, you claim that I am misattributing Musk's success, and at the same time you are misattributing the success of a company bought by Elon and carried by people who bought into the idea into long hours of work with little pay, bad conditions, and lots of racism [1,2] while being overvalued[3] and whose self-anointed CEO is under investigation for market manipulation and insider trading [4]. I want to draw attention to your own language, here: > Currently the DoD, NASA and ESA relies on SpaceX. Literally the 2 of the 3 largest space agencies on relay on him. In particular the pronoun. The space agencies do not rely on "him", they rely on SpaceX and the people working there, not specifically on Musk. Musk is not doing any engineering, designing, science, or manufacturing. What Elon is doing is selling an idea through his brand which attracts the people who do the actual work. --- > That Musk success is luck is just beyond fucking stupid. Notice that I didn't attribute his success to sheer dumb luck. I was rather particular in my language. Being born into money opens many doors for you. Just from an immigration standpoint, he could at any point immigrate to the US because he could "invest" in some company and earn a visa to stay. He had a Canadian citizenship by birth, born into a family of immense wealth. Those things already put him in 3rd base and enable him to do more. He never had to deal with immigration issues or green-card lotteries or anything of this nature while people who were smarter, or better engineers, or whatever else are battling immigration processes. He was literally born at the right time and had the money to be an adult with money in the dot-com era. Just from the sheer number of people who were in that position - and many were - somebody had to land to the top. That's kinda how sampling works, even if the chance is very low, given enough samples it happens, and if you are dealing in ordinals; then for any number of people a 1st, 2nd, 3rd etc must exist. I didn't attribute everything to sheer luck, and your fanboyism shows. Musk may not be an engineer or a scientist, but he certainly knew how to cultivate a brand and inspire people. He has severely tarnished said brand over the last few years, e.g. calling a diver a peadophile out of nowhere, the whole twitter fiasco, everything related to market manipulation and insider trading... ---- As for concerns over jealousy; even if I was a billionaire my life wouldn't change. I am paid multiple times over what I need. My work is just 10h of meetings, the other 30 hours or so of programming I would do for free. I mean, I program for free at my down time any way... Most importantly, I have great relationships with my family and friends, and we are all healthy and thriving. I could never imagine my children cutting me off their lives, and there's no amount of money, or fame or any other ephemeral or fleeting desires that can ever be worth losing that. [1] https://www.reuters.com/legal/jury-orders-tesla-pay-32-mln-black-ex-worker-us-race-bias-case-2023-04-03/ https://www.reuters.com/legal/jury-orders-tesla-pay-32-mln-b... [2] https://finance.yahoo.com/news/pays-employees-better-elon-musk-181302605.html?guccounter=1 https://finance.yahoo.com/news/pays-employees-better-elon-mu... [3] https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/tesla-stock-1000-percent-overvalued-26-elon-musk-david-trainer-2023-7 https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/tesla-stock-... [4] https://www.forbes.com/sites/digital-assets/2023/06/03/market-manipulation-and-insider-trading-elon-musk-and-tesla-are-facing-a-fresh-nightmare-challenge/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/digital-assets/2023/06/03/marke...