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By manufacturer, nobody comes close to outsellling Apple by an order of magnitude, let alone several. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_share_of_personal_

By manufacturer, nobody comes close to outsellling Apple by an order of magnitude, let alone several. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_share_of_personal_computer_vendors https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_share_of_personal_com... By laptop, the numbers are likely even less in your favour since Apple only has a few models. So no, the average consumer agrees with me and not you. It’s immoral for anyone to create waste, so perhaps supposed environmental fines should be directly proportional to damage and not some specific penalty to a specific entity. I find that people that support such policies generally do so in a way so that they themselves are excluded from the laws they apply to others.

adriancr 3y ago
> By manufacturer, nobody comes close to outsellling Apple by an order of magnitude, let alone several. Fine, I was wrong, a single order of magnitude between apple and everyone else, not several, I still thought apple had 2% of the market instead of 10% now. So average consumer... hell... 90% of the consumers don't buy apple. https://www.statista.com/statistics/273495/global-shipments-of-personal-computers-since-2006/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/273495/global-shipments-... "2022, approximately 286 million PCs were shipped around the world" Where apple had: 26 million Mac and MacBook units were sold in 2022 > It’s immoral for anyone to create waste I'm happy you share the same view. > so perhaps supposed environmental fines should be directly proportional to damage Apple consumers have proven they don't care about money spent on products, so this would not have any effect. (doubt anyone would notice 100-200$ more on price...) Best to not have the damage in the first place and force them to come up with better products. (so in essence, force them to use the tax you proposed into designing a better product)

adriancr 3y ago

> By manufacturer, nobody comes close to outsellling Apple by an order of magnitude, let alone several. Fine, I was wrong, a single order of magnitude between apple and everyone else, not several, I still thought apple had 2% of the market instead of 10% now. So average consumer... hell... 90% of the consumers don't buy apple. https://www.statista.com/statistics/273495/global-shipments-of-personal-computers-since-2006/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/273495/global-shipments-... "2022, approximately 286 million PCs were shipped around the world" Where apple had: 26 million Mac and MacBook units were sold in 2022 > It’s immoral for anyone to create waste I'm happy you share the same view. > so perhaps supposed environmental fines should be directly proportional to damage Apple consumers have proven they don't care about money spent on products, so this would not have any effect. (doubt anyone would notice 100-200$ more on price...) Best to not have the damage in the first place and force them to come up with better products. (so in essence, force them to use the tax you proposed into designing a better product)