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> sharing it with ad partners, What do you mean by this? What kind of information do advertisers get to receive?

by Permit 3y ago

_nalply 3y ago
Corporate has data about people. For example, if you plan a holiday, Google, Meta, and others know it. If your wife suffers from a serious condition, Google, Meta, and others know it. Corporate has extensive databases and every person is potentially profiled with a lot of detail. Advertisers don't usually receive detailed information, instead they are promised that their advertisements are targeted correctly. To do that the data about people is used. But with this data Corporate gets too much power. Corporate needs to follow Human Rights, like states. One aspect is that there is no due process in case of conflicts, like someone being wrongly excluded from using a Corporate service. We also need transparency about how this data is used exactly and who else gets views. Europe is trying to establish transparency with the GDPR, however is foiled by malicious compliance by Corporate. It does not help that Europe is clumsy.
tadfisher 3y ago
None, because the data asymmetry is how Google earns revenue. If they just sold the data, you'd set up a competing ad network that undercuts AdSense by operating on slightly outdated snapshots.
- hedora 3y ago
  This is why they charge third parties to run unauditable google-provided code on top of your data instead. Also, they sell provide it governments in the form of warrant requests. For more info, read up in google ad auction fraud, and google location warrant. Microsoft is actually worse though. For one thing, Windows’ default telemetry level lets them pull files off your machine. Here’s a Microsoft apologist explaining it: https://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-10-telemetry-secrets/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-10-telemetry-secrets/ The US CLOUD Act (which Microsoft lobbied for) means that they have to pull that data in response to US warrant requests, regardless of what country you are in. Also, they already merged mojang (minecraft) into the Microsoft login umbrella. It is clearly a dry run for when they merge linkedin and github in, so they can provide better worker surveillance capabilities to their corporate customers.

> sharing it with ad partners, What do you mean by this? What kind of information do advertisers get to receive?

by Permit 3y ago

> sharing it with ad partners, What do you mean by this? What kind of information do advertisers get to receive?

Corporate has data about people. For example, if you plan a holiday, Google, Meta, and others know it. If your wife suffers from a serious condition, Google, Meta, and others know it. Corporate has extensive databases and every person is potentially profiled with a lot of detail. Advertisers don't usually receive detailed information, instead they are promised that their advertisements are targeted correctly. To do that the data about people is used. But with this data Corporate gets too much power. Corporate needs to follow Human Rights, like states. One aspect is that there is no due process in case of conflicts, like someone being wrongly excluded from using a Corporate service. We also need transparency about how this data is used exactly and who else gets views. Europe is trying to establish transparency with the GDPR, however is foiled by malicious compliance by Corporate. It does not help that Europe is clumsy.

tadfisher 3y ago

None, because the data asymmetry is how Google earns revenue. If they just sold the data, you'd set up a competing ad network that undercuts AdSense by operating on slightly outdated snapshots.

hedora 3y ago
This is why they charge third parties to run unauditable google-provided code on top of your data instead. Also, they sell provide it governments in the form of warrant requests. For more info, read up in google ad auction fraud, and google location warrant. Microsoft is actually worse though. For one thing, Windows’ default telemetry level lets them pull files off your machine. Here’s a Microsoft apologist explaining it: https://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-10-telemetry-secrets/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-10-telemetry-secrets/ The US CLOUD Act (which Microsoft lobbied for) means that they have to pull that data in response to US warrant requests, regardless of what country you are in. Also, they already merged mojang (minecraft) into the Microsoft login umbrella. It is clearly a dry run for when they merge linkedin and github in, so they can provide better worker surveillance capabilities to their corporate customers.