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> pay the very small fee for YouTube Premium and do away with all the ads because it doesn't do away with _all_ the ads: every video still has the video maker

> pay the very small fee for YouTube Premium and do away with all the ads because it doesn't do away with _all_ the ads: every video still has the video maker themselves talking about their 'sponsor' for at least a minute, reminding us to 'like and subscribe' for at least ten seconds, and a patreon scroll of users that have paid extra for another three minutes

whynotminot 3y ago
What’s YouTube supposed to do about that?
- jareklupinski 3y ago
  stop pretending that paying them extra money removes all ads would help "Removes _some_ ads!" probably wouldnt sell as many subscriptions though haha
  - whynotminot 3y ago
    It’s not some ads. It’s like 90% of ads. Whenever I use someone else’s account or am not logged in I’m shocked by how ad filled YouTube is. Easily my most automatic subscription and worth every penny. The creators typically have one 30 second spot where they often do a humorous riff. Not that big a deal.
    - exodust 3y ago
      Sounds like you value youtube premium because of what it doesn't show more than what it does. Google: "Pay the monthly fee to avoid getting slapped in the face with a wet fish." You: "worth every penny!"
      - whynotminot 3y ago
        What? We’re talking about the ads so that’s what I’m talking about here. Sometimes this site is obnoxious.
        exodust 3y ago
        What? You went from talking about ads to calling this site obnoxious? First of all, if you found my comment obnoxious, it's not "this site" that's obnoxious, it's this user! My comment was mild. I find the increase in ads on youtube to be obnoxious. You find value in Premium, because you don't suffer ads. It's a fair call to wonder whether the value you find comes from "not seeing obnoxious levels of ads" vs anything else, such as the quality of service offered under premium. End of the day: my criticism is directed at Google, for encouraging clickbait spammer content; increasing intrusive ads and charging too much in order to not suffer those increasing ads.
- NoraCodes 3y ago
  Pay their creators not to insert ads into their content.
- wiseowise 3y ago
  YouTube censorship works really well whenever it hears swear words or god forbid you show a bit too much of human body, but apparently 10 to 60 seconds of ad crap is undetectable to them. Demonetize the shit out of the video, on subsequent offense demonetize whole channel.
  - skotobaza 3y ago
    The whole in-video sponsorship happened because of mass demonetization in the first place.
djaychela 3y ago
Not every video, but I do take your point. Some patreon supported channels even have no ads at all.
warkdarrior 3y ago
And how would that behavior change on a non-Youtube/non-Google video website? Do you think content creators will no longer ask for sponsorship??
drstewart 3y ago
This is like complaining electric trucks aren't really electric because the lawnmower you transport in it still takes gas
davidktr 3y ago
The Firefox addon Sponsorblock blocks almost 100% of those ads. Together with uBlock Origin, I have an almost ad-free Youtube experience.
- baal80spam 3y ago
  FYI - it's not a "Firefox addon", it's just an addon and it exists for Chromium based browsers as well. And I agree that it's fantastic.
yason 3y ago
These are two different things. Youtube ads can potentially found in all videos and you don't really have a choice because there's no practical alternative to Youtube. So you either pay or use an adblocker (while it works). There's value in Youtube and I can easily see why would someone pay for the ad-free subscription. Then again creators who choose to advertise or promote commercial products in their videos have a fraction of the leverage that Youtube has. If you don't like them, simply don't watch those channels and find something else. By choosing to promote products they'll implicitly choose to filter out some segments of their potential audience, and that's their choice. Youtube has nothing to do with that, they would place promotions in their videos no matter what service they use as their video outlet.
imgabe 3y ago
It costs money to run YouTube and it costs creators money to make content. Some of them are trying to make a living doing it. If you don't want to pay and you don't want to see ads, how do you expect the service to function?
carstenhag 3y ago
Literally 3-6 taps (to fast forward 20-50 seconds) on a phone. Two-Three clicks using the web. Grabbing the remote, pressing 3 times "right" and "ok" for a TV running YouTube. Creators can't live from YouTube alone (yt premium makes this better afaik, but you still get paid per watch time, which can go against your content or ethics), so they do sponsored ads integrated into their videos. For some the yt-alone revenue is only 20-40% of the total.

whynotminot 3y ago

What’s YouTube supposed to do about that?

jareklupinski 3y ago
stop pretending that paying them extra money removes all ads would help "Removes _some_ ads!" probably wouldnt sell as many subscriptions though haha
- whynotminot 3y ago
  It’s not some ads. It’s like 90% of ads. Whenever I use someone else’s account or am not logged in I’m shocked by how ad filled YouTube is. Easily my most automatic subscription and worth every penny. The creators typically have one 30 second spot where they often do a humorous riff. Not that big a deal.
  - exodust 3y ago
    Sounds like you value youtube premium because of what it doesn't show more than what it does. Google: "Pay the monthly fee to avoid getting slapped in the face with a wet fish." You: "worth every penny!"
    - whynotminot 3y ago
      What? We’re talking about the ads so that’s what I’m talking about here. Sometimes this site is obnoxious.
      - exodust 3y ago
        What? You went from talking about ads to calling this site obnoxious? First of all, if you found my comment obnoxious, it's not "this site" that's obnoxious, it's this user! My comment was mild. I find the increase in ads on youtube to be obnoxious. You find value in Premium, because you don't suffer ads. It's a fair call to wonder whether the value you find comes from "not seeing obnoxious levels of ads" vs anything else, such as the quality of service offered under premium. End of the day: my criticism is directed at Google, for encouraging clickbait spammer content; increasing intrusive ads and charging too much in order to not suffer those increasing ads.
NoraCodes 3y ago
Pay their creators not to insert ads into their content.
wiseowise 3y ago
YouTube censorship works really well whenever it hears swear words or god forbid you show a bit too much of human body, but apparently 10 to 60 seconds of ad crap is undetectable to them. Demonetize the shit out of the video, on subsequent offense demonetize whole channel.
- skotobaza 3y ago
  The whole in-video sponsorship happened because of mass demonetization in the first place.

djaychela 3y ago

Not every video, but I do take your point. Some patreon supported channels even have no ads at all.

warkdarrior 3y ago

And how would that behavior change on a non-Youtube/non-Google video website? Do you think content creators will no longer ask for sponsorship??

drstewart 3y ago

This is like complaining electric trucks aren't really electric because the lawnmower you transport in it still takes gas

davidktr 3y ago

The Firefox addon Sponsorblock blocks almost 100% of those ads. Together with uBlock Origin, I have an almost ad-free Youtube experience.

baal80spam 3y ago
FYI - it's not a "Firefox addon", it's just an addon and it exists for Chromium based browsers as well. And I agree that it's fantastic.

yason 3y ago

These are two different things. Youtube ads can potentially found in all videos and you don't really have a choice because there's no practical alternative to Youtube. So you either pay or use an adblocker (while it works). There's value in Youtube and I can easily see why would someone pay for the ad-free subscription. Then again creators who choose to advertise or promote commercial products in their videos have a fraction of the leverage that Youtube has. If you don't like them, simply don't watch those channels and find something else. By choosing to promote products they'll implicitly choose to filter out some segments of their potential audience, and that's their choice. Youtube has nothing to do with that, they would place promotions in their videos no matter what service they use as their video outlet.

imgabe 3y ago

It costs money to run YouTube and it costs creators money to make content. Some of them are trying to make a living doing it. If you don't want to pay and you don't want to see ads, how do you expect the service to function?

carstenhag 3y ago

Literally 3-6 taps (to fast forward 20-50 seconds) on a phone. Two-Three clicks using the web. Grabbing the remote, pressing 3 times "right" and "ok" for a TV running YouTube. Creators can't live from YouTube alone (yt premium makes this better afaik, but you still get paid per watch time, which can go against your content or ethics), so they do sponsored ads integrated into their videos. For some the yt-alone revenue is only 20-40% of the total.