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They don't generate anywhere near the heat nor use anywhere near the amount of energy the servers do. I imagine this wasn't a big part of the equation. Google

They don't generate anywhere near the heat nor use anywhere near the amount of energy the servers do. I imagine this wasn't a big part of the equation. Google is incredibly secretive about datacenters and servers. Speaking as a former engineer who worked on web search, all information about datacenter hardware was very, very confidential, way more than plenty of other confidential info. I hadn't heard about the lights out policy before, but it doesn't surprise me.

mjwalshe 15y ago
well given the pics of the DC that google released I do not think they take physical security that seriously. The fences where low and only a single fence they did not cut back the woods next to the fence and they did not take the simple solution of extending the near by lake to make a proper moat.
- tedunangst 15y ago
  Your competition is only going to go so far. "I got turned around in the datacenter, oopsie" is something that happens. It's not likely that Amazon is going to send someone over a fence, regardless of how low it is. That's crossing the line. vaguely related: http://old.post-gazette.com/pg/06188/704045-28.stm http://old.post-gazette.com/pg/06188/704045-28.stm
  - nmridul 15y ago
    Amazon may not be sending someone in. But there could be some "paparazzi" out there who would like to get a photo of this for his/her fame. Then, it will be visible to amazon, facebook et al.
  - mjwalshe 15y ago
    But its ignoring standard practice at even low security places for example the fences at BT Labs (Uk's Bell Labs) where about 50% higher and curved inwards (to keep intruders inside. Though one visiting US telco guy said of BT Labs "Fuck Me it's a Prison"
- babycakes 15y ago
  Google Data Center Security video from 2011: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SCZzgfdTBo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SCZzgfdTBo It's probably not going to stop heavily armed invaders, but nobody's going to sneak onto the data center floor.

mjwalshe 15y ago

well given the pics of the DC that google released I do not think they take physical security that seriously. The fences where low and only a single fence they did not cut back the woods next to the fence and they did not take the simple solution of extending the near by lake to make a proper moat.

tedunangst 15y ago
Your competition is only going to go so far. "I got turned around in the datacenter, oopsie" is something that happens. It's not likely that Amazon is going to send someone over a fence, regardless of how low it is. That's crossing the line. vaguely related: http://old.post-gazette.com/pg/06188/704045-28.stm http://old.post-gazette.com/pg/06188/704045-28.stm
- nmridul 15y ago
  Amazon may not be sending someone in. But there could be some "paparazzi" out there who would like to get a photo of this for his/her fame. Then, it will be visible to amazon, facebook et al.
- mjwalshe 15y ago
  But its ignoring standard practice at even low security places for example the fences at BT Labs (Uk's Bell Labs) where about 50% higher and curved inwards (to keep intruders inside. Though one visiting US telco guy said of BT Labs "Fuck Me it's a Prison"
babycakes 15y ago
Google Data Center Security video from 2011: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SCZzgfdTBo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SCZzgfdTBo It's probably not going to stop heavily armed invaders, but nobody's going to sneak onto the data center floor.