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I feel like if we treated kids a little bit more like adults, things would be much better. These reactions are pretty reasonable relatively speaking, kids are j

I feel like if we treated kids a little bit more like adults, things would be much better. These reactions are pretty reasonable relatively speaking, kids are just not quite as adept at navigating reality as adults are. With a little help they can be pretty good though.

andrepd 3y ago
Oh absolutely. One of the lessons of e.g. Montessori education is that treating kids as grownups will lead to them acting as grownups.
- hsjqllzlfkf 3y ago
  Let me guess, you're from the UK.
  - andrepd 3y ago
    Definitely not, though I'm not sure what's that supposed to mean.
    - hsjqllzlfkf 3y ago
      Dunno, I always thought that treating children with respect was common sense. When I got to the UK all of a sudden this is such a ground breaking idea, everyone calls it "Montessori". What a revolutionary concept!
      - andrepd 3y ago
        Well if in your household children were treated "as adults" (relatively speaking, within reason, etc), then you're in the far far minority x) And not just UK, think of all cultures around the world from Hispanic to Chinese.
makeitdouble 3y ago
Yes and no. I think we should at least treat them as intelligent beings and give them enough information to understand the world around them. "As adults" though is super difficult to balance. They'll still do illogical things (you can explain its cold outside and they need a coat, they'll still get out in t-shirt) and need a ton of flexibility. It's kinda hard to square that they have a brain but don't use it the same way when looking at them in terms of "partially adults". My mental image is of aliens learning about our society.
- aaomidi 3y ago
  If they’re cold they’ll learn and not do it in the future. Honestly the consequences of some actions are so basic, just let them see how it goes imo
  - makeitdouble 3y ago
    Spoiler: they don't learn until some point, when they become able to project themselves in the future and act accordingly. Many basic assumptions just don't work until their brain evolves past specific points. Some research around the subject: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0885201405000225 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S08852... [edited for clarity]
  - watwut 3y ago
    Yeah, they don't. They will be cold again and again and show Pikachu face again and again. It changes from certain age, but that is much higher age.
  - kelseyfrog 3y ago
    You would think. However, rationality is not a product of behavioralism. "Remember, you complained about being cold last time?" will be met with, "I won't be cold this time." (modulo individual interchild variation). The part of their brain that says, "you know, I was cold last time," cannot be rushed to speak.

andrepd 3y ago

Oh absolutely. One of the lessons of e.g. Montessori education is that treating kids as grownups will lead to them acting as grownups.

hsjqllzlfkf 3y ago
Let me guess, you're from the UK.
- andrepd 3y ago
  Definitely not, though I'm not sure what's that supposed to mean.
  - hsjqllzlfkf 3y ago
    Dunno, I always thought that treating children with respect was common sense. When I got to the UK all of a sudden this is such a ground breaking idea, everyone calls it "Montessori". What a revolutionary concept!
    - andrepd 3y ago
      Well if in your household children were treated "as adults" (relatively speaking, within reason, etc), then you're in the far far minority x) And not just UK, think of all cultures around the world from Hispanic to Chinese.

makeitdouble 3y ago

Yes and no. I think we should at least treat them as intelligent beings and give them enough information to understand the world around them. "As adults" though is super difficult to balance. They'll still do illogical things (you can explain its cold outside and they need a coat, they'll still get out in t-shirt) and need a ton of flexibility. It's kinda hard to square that they have a brain but don't use it the same way when looking at them in terms of "partially adults". My mental image is of aliens learning about our society.

aaomidi 3y ago
If they’re cold they’ll learn and not do it in the future. Honestly the consequences of some actions are so basic, just let them see how it goes imo
- makeitdouble 3y ago
  Spoiler: they don't learn until some point, when they become able to project themselves in the future and act accordingly. Many basic assumptions just don't work until their brain evolves past specific points. Some research around the subject: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0885201405000225 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S08852... [edited for clarity]
- watwut 3y ago
  Yeah, they don't. They will be cold again and again and show Pikachu face again and again. It changes from certain age, but that is much higher age.
- kelseyfrog 3y ago
  You would think. However, rationality is not a product of behavioralism. "Remember, you complained about being cold last time?" will be met with, "I won't be cold this time." (modulo individual interchild variation). The part of their brain that says, "you know, I was cold last time," cannot be rushed to speak.