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Being a welfare recipient in Germany earns you vastly more monsy than working hard in Nigeria. Almost every single Nigerian has a direct economic interest to ge

Being a welfare recipient in Germany earns you vastly more monsy than working hard in Nigeria. Almost every single Nigerian has a direct economic interest to get to Germany.

ben_w 3y ago
I moved to Germany from the UK before Brexit happened. Doing so roughly doubled my pay. Why do you think so few other British people did what I did, despite this economic incentive? Deutsche Sprache, schwere Sprache. Kuma a cewar abokin aikina na Najeriya, yaren de-facto a Najeriya Ingilishi ne, ba Hausa/Igbo/Yoruba ba.
- constantcrying 3y ago
  You can not compare migration of (presumably) high skilled workers with unskilled workers. >Deutsche Sprache, schwere Sprache. So what? Where I live you can get by just fine if you speak turkish or arabic.
  - ben_w 3y ago
    > You can not compare migration of (presumably) high skilled workers with unskilled workers. Why not? Is there a "benefits trap" here in Germany, like in the UK, where working makes you worse off? > So what? Where I live you can get by just fine if you speak turkish or arabic. Have you tried living without the local language? As an outsider, first few times at the supermarket checkout was mortifying, just because there's three different common ways people ask if you want a receipt. The government bureaucracy? Getting my Anmeldebestätigung sorted was intimidating (in the UK, the equivalent is posted through your letterbox and you fill it out and post it). Mandatory health etc. insurance? I misunderstood, picked an irrelevant kind of insurance instead of what I needed, only found out when I got a job and HR told me and sorted it for me.
    - constantcrying 3y ago
      >Have you tried living without the local language? No.
defrost 3y ago
Having a job in Germany earns you vastly more money than being a welfare recipient in Germany. Almost every single Nigerian has a direct economic interest to get a job in Germany. Hard figures demonstrate that immigrants frequently work harder and deliver more than many of those in the country they immigrate to.
- constantcrying 3y ago
  >Hard figures demonstrate that immigrants frequently work harder and deliver more than many of those in the country they immigrate to. over 50% of syrians do not work at all. >Having a job in Germany earns you vastly more monsy than being a welfare recipient in Germany. Not really. You just need to have a couple of kids.
  - ben_w 3y ago
    > over 50% of syrians do not work at all. Would those by any chance be either (1) asylum seekers who are banned by law from working, or (2) children or spouses? > You just need to have a couple of kids. Child benefits come with the rather high expense of looking after kids. Also, while Germany has excellent child benefits, they not that high. Also also, the UK says much the same thing even with much worse benefits.
    - constantcrying 3y ago
      No. 50% receive "citizens money". >or spouses? Women can work too, you know? >asylum seekers who are banned by law from working No such law exists in Germany. You are explicitly allowed to work even while waiting for the decision for being granted asylum is being made.
      - ben_w 3y ago
        In English, "spouses" is un-gendered; whoever looks after the household may commonly be a woman, but what I wrote doesn't presume that. > You are explicitly allowed to work even while waiting for the decision for being granted asylum is being made Only three months after applying for asylum, with the permission of the Federal Employment Agency, and not if they live in a reception facility.

Being a welfare recipient in Germany earns you vastly more monsy than working hard in Nigeria. Almost every single Nigerian has a direct economic interest to get to Germany.

ben_w 3y ago

I moved to Germany from the UK before Brexit happened. Doing so roughly doubled my pay. Why do you think so few other British people did what I did, despite this economic incentive? Deutsche Sprache, schwere Sprache. Kuma a cewar abokin aikina na Najeriya, yaren de-facto a Najeriya Ingilishi ne, ba Hausa/Igbo/Yoruba ba.

constantcrying 3y ago
You can not compare migration of (presumably) high skilled workers with unskilled workers. >Deutsche Sprache, schwere Sprache. So what? Where I live you can get by just fine if you speak turkish or arabic.
- ben_w 3y ago
  > You can not compare migration of (presumably) high skilled workers with unskilled workers. Why not? Is there a "benefits trap" here in Germany, like in the UK, where working makes you worse off? > So what? Where I live you can get by just fine if you speak turkish or arabic. Have you tried living without the local language? As an outsider, first few times at the supermarket checkout was mortifying, just because there's three different common ways people ask if you want a receipt. The government bureaucracy? Getting my Anmeldebestätigung sorted was intimidating (in the UK, the equivalent is posted through your letterbox and you fill it out and post it). Mandatory health etc. insurance? I misunderstood, picked an irrelevant kind of insurance instead of what I needed, only found out when I got a job and HR told me and sorted it for me.
  - constantcrying 3y ago
    >Have you tried living without the local language? No.

defrost 3y ago

Having a job in Germany earns you vastly more money than being a welfare recipient in Germany. Almost every single Nigerian has a direct economic interest to get a job in Germany. Hard figures demonstrate that immigrants frequently work harder and deliver more than many of those in the country they immigrate to.

constantcrying 3y ago
>Hard figures demonstrate that immigrants frequently work harder and deliver more than many of those in the country they immigrate to. over 50% of syrians do not work at all. >Having a job in Germany earns you vastly more monsy than being a welfare recipient in Germany. Not really. You just need to have a couple of kids.
- ben_w 3y ago
  > over 50% of syrians do not work at all. Would those by any chance be either (1) asylum seekers who are banned by law from working, or (2) children or spouses? > You just need to have a couple of kids. Child benefits come with the rather high expense of looking after kids. Also, while Germany has excellent child benefits, they not that high. Also also, the UK says much the same thing even with much worse benefits.
  - constantcrying 3y ago
    No. 50% receive "citizens money". >or spouses? Women can work too, you know? >asylum seekers who are banned by law from working No such law exists in Germany. You are explicitly allowed to work even while waiting for the decision for being granted asylum is being made.
    - ben_w 3y ago
      In English, "spouses" is un-gendered; whoever looks after the household may commonly be a woman, but what I wrote doesn't presume that. > You are explicitly allowed to work even while waiting for the decision for being granted asylum is being made Only three months after applying for asylum, with the permission of the Federal Employment Agency, and not if they live in a reception facility.