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It's called compassion. I agree it's stupid. But how do you look at someone who did this and send them back to where they came from, the place they were so des

It's called compassion. I agree it's stupid. But how do you look at someone who did this and send them back to where they came from, the place they were so desperate to leave?

rejectfinite 3y ago
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KetoManx64 3y ago
As a compassionate person, why don't you pay for people to immigrate over legally and then pay for their bills until they get settled in and find a job? Why do we all have to be forced to pay for your compassion through our taxes?
- wildrhythms 3y ago
  Why is your immediate assumption that immigrants cannot work and support themselves and their families just like natural born citizens?
  - constantcrying 3y ago
    Statistics. The refugee crisis happened in 2016 still 50% of Syrians are payed for by the state.
  - fallingknife 3y ago
    Denmark did a study where they found that immigrants from poor countries are a drain on public finances for almost their entire lives and I have no reason to believe it would be different elsewhere. https://www.economist.com/europe/2021/12/18/why-have-danes-turned-against-immigration https://www.economist.com/europe/2021/12/18/why-have-danes-t... (disable JS to bypass paywall)
- op00to 3y ago
  Because we are rich and can afford it. Because bringing more people to our country that needs labor will keep the economy churning. Because your ancestors got here somehow.
  - constantcrying 3y ago
    No european country is in need for unskilled labor. Especially if that unskilled "labour" just gets on welfare, because working for minimum wage in a western country is really stupid.
  - wwtrv 3y ago
    If that's the case why not create a legal and transparent process which would allow these people to com here instead of encouraging to them to risk their lives to come here illegally?
  - KetoManx64 3y ago
    Not sure if you've looked at your country's national debt to GDP ratio or unfunded liabilities lately, but no first world country can afford immigrants, esoecially ones with no job skills, no language skills, and most likely illiterate coming into a job market that is quickly automating all lower wage jobs.
pknomad 3y ago
Damned if you do, damned if you don't. I understand why one wouldn't want to accept them despite their predicament; these stowaways are generally unskilled and don't speak the language of their host country. There's social integration and investment to consider and inviting even one sets a precedence for others to follow.
wwtrv 3y ago
> It's called compassion So you're fine if by doing this you encourage another N people to try and do the same and a non insignificant proportion are guaranteed to die while trying?

It's called compassion. I agree it's stupid. But how do you look at someone who did this and send them back to where they came from, the place they were so desperate to leave?

rejectfinite 3y ago

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KetoManx64 3y ago

As a compassionate person, why don't you pay for people to immigrate over legally and then pay for their bills until they get settled in and find a job? Why do we all have to be forced to pay for your compassion through our taxes?

wildrhythms 3y ago
Why is your immediate assumption that immigrants cannot work and support themselves and their families just like natural born citizens?
- constantcrying 3y ago
  Statistics. The refugee crisis happened in 2016 still 50% of Syrians are payed for by the state.
- fallingknife 3y ago
  Denmark did a study where they found that immigrants from poor countries are a drain on public finances for almost their entire lives and I have no reason to believe it would be different elsewhere. https://www.economist.com/europe/2021/12/18/why-have-danes-turned-against-immigration https://www.economist.com/europe/2021/12/18/why-have-danes-t... (disable JS to bypass paywall)
op00to 3y ago
Because we are rich and can afford it. Because bringing more people to our country that needs labor will keep the economy churning. Because your ancestors got here somehow.
- constantcrying 3y ago
  No european country is in need for unskilled labor. Especially if that unskilled "labour" just gets on welfare, because working for minimum wage in a western country is really stupid.
- wwtrv 3y ago
  If that's the case why not create a legal and transparent process which would allow these people to com here instead of encouraging to them to risk their lives to come here illegally?
- KetoManx64 3y ago
  Not sure if you've looked at your country's national debt to GDP ratio or unfunded liabilities lately, but no first world country can afford immigrants, esoecially ones with no job skills, no language skills, and most likely illiterate coming into a job market that is quickly automating all lower wage jobs.

pknomad 3y ago

Damned if you do, damned if you don't. I understand why one wouldn't want to accept them despite their predicament; these stowaways are generally unskilled and don't speak the language of their host country. There's social integration and investment to consider and inviting even one sets a precedence for others to follow.

wwtrv 3y ago

> It's called compassion So you're fine if by doing this you encourage another N people to try and do the same and a non insignificant proportion are guaranteed to die while trying?