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Why wouldn't there be?

by robbrown451 3y ago

freitzkriesler2 3y ago
Because there won't be and it's naive to think otherwise. The tech isn't open source, the hardware is expensive, and then there's the massive regulatory over head to get these into the road. You'd be better off hoping for your personal car to be autonomous so it can come pick you up and that's assuming personal cars remain affordable enough.
- dventimi 3y ago
  > the tech isn't open source Neither was automobile tech a hundred years ago yet somehow GM and Chrysler managed to put up a fight against Ford > the hardware is expensive...and then there's the massive regulatory over head Sure. It's expensive and not easy, and yet already a few companies are trying. Evidently they view the potential upside as worth it. Turns out, they don't have a monopoly on that view.
  - freitzkriesler2 3y ago
    That's a really bad false equivalence. It doesn't take a lot of effort to reverse engineer mechanical parts and by that time the early automobile patents long expired. It doesn't take a mechanical engineer much effort to recreate parts from patent documents. Also Ford didn't invent the automobile, Karl Benz did. Now try and reverse engineer the black box algorithms necessary to make a self driving car. See the same efforts involved in reverse engineering other proprietary closed source products. Now good luck getting the NHTSA to approve those to drive those on the road.
    - JumpCrisscross 3y ago
      > It doesn't take a lot of effort to reverse engineer mechanical parts Internal combustion engines are ridiculously complicated. Modern engines directly trace lineage to their manufacturers’ founding. Major engine differences continue to define the automotive field.
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    - dventimi 3y ago
      > It doesn't take a lot of effort to reverse engineer mechanical parts Have you personally ever reverse-engineered an internal combustion engine or recreated parts from a patent document?

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Why wouldn't there be?

by robbrown451 3y ago

Why wouldn't there be?

freitzkriesler2 3y ago
Because there won't be and it's naive to think otherwise. The tech isn't open source, the hardware is expensive, and then there's the massive regulatory over head to get these into the road. You'd be better off hoping for your personal car to be autonomous so it can come pick you up and that's assuming personal cars remain affordable enough.
- dventimi 3y ago
  > the tech isn't open source Neither was automobile tech a hundred years ago yet somehow GM and Chrysler managed to put up a fight against Ford > the hardware is expensive...and then there's the massive regulatory over head Sure. It's expensive and not easy, and yet already a few companies are trying. Evidently they view the potential upside as worth it. Turns out, they don't have a monopoly on that view.
  - freitzkriesler2 3y ago
    That's a really bad false equivalence. It doesn't take a lot of effort to reverse engineer mechanical parts and by that time the early automobile patents long expired. It doesn't take a mechanical engineer much effort to recreate parts from patent documents. Also Ford didn't invent the automobile, Karl Benz did. Now try and reverse engineer the black box algorithms necessary to make a self driving car. See the same efforts involved in reverse engineering other proprietary closed source products. Now good luck getting the NHTSA to approve those to drive those on the road.
    - JumpCrisscross 3y ago
      > It doesn't take a lot of effort to reverse engineer mechanical parts Internal combustion engines are ridiculously complicated. Modern engines directly trace lineage to their manufacturers’ founding. Major engine differences continue to define the automotive field.
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    - dventimi 3y ago
      > It doesn't take a lot of effort to reverse engineer mechanical parts Have you personally ever reverse-engineered an internal combustion engine or recreated parts from a patent document?