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Edit: The project does not run on "docker machine" as per the graceful correction by OrbStack's developer below[2]. It's a proprietary container interface that

by krono 3y ago

Edit: The project does not run on "docker machine" as per the graceful correction by OrbStack's developer below[2]. It's a proprietary container interface that - as far as I could tell - runs on the outdated and unsupported "docker machine"[1]. An alternative would be to run a more recent container runtime of your choosing in a VM through UTM which works beautifully. [1]: https://github.com/docker/machine https://github.com/docker/machine [2]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37107233 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37107233

kdrag0n 3y ago
Hey, dev here — not sure what you mean. OrbStack currently ships an official build of Docker Engine 24.0.5, which is the latest version as of writing. Previous versions used Alpine Linux's build. I did intentionally delay the update from 23.x to 24.x by a few weeks while I waited for things to settle, because last time I updated from 22.x to 23.x shortly after release and some users were hit by bugs that hadn't been ironed out yet. Edit: Noticed that you edited your comment to say that it uses "Docker Machine" instead. That's not the case. OrbStack uses a nested architecture where it runs Linux machines [1]. There's a special machine called "docker" that runs a copy of the Docker Engine, but that's not related to the old Docker Machine project. [1] https://docs.orbstack.dev/architecture https://docs.orbstack.dev/architecture
- krono 3y ago
  I stand corrected! Glad you were here to do so. My confusion must have come from mixed terminology being used by others than yourself on GitHub and in articles about your project I skimmed through when looking into it. The project might still not be for me regardless of its underpinning, although I will have to say that it's immediately obvious that you persue high standards and care a great deal about delivering a quality product.
  - kdrag0n 3y ago
    Makes sense, no worries!

by krono 3y ago

kdrag0n 3y ago

Hey, dev here — not sure what you mean. OrbStack currently ships an official build of Docker Engine 24.0.5, which is the latest version as of writing. Previous versions used Alpine Linux's build. I did intentionally delay the update from 23.x to 24.x by a few weeks while I waited for things to settle, because last time I updated from 22.x to 23.x shortly after release and some users were hit by bugs that hadn't been ironed out yet. Edit: Noticed that you edited your comment to say that it uses "Docker Machine" instead. That's not the case. OrbStack uses a nested architecture where it runs Linux machines [1]. There's a special machine called "docker" that runs a copy of the Docker Engine, but that's not related to the old Docker Machine project. [1] https://docs.orbstack.dev/architecture https://docs.orbstack.dev/architecture

krono 3y ago
I stand corrected! Glad you were here to do so. My confusion must have come from mixed terminology being used by others than yourself on GitHub and in articles about your project I skimmed through when looking into it. The project might still not be for me regardless of its underpinning, although I will have to say that it's immediately obvious that you persue high standards and care a great deal about delivering a quality product.
- kdrag0n 3y ago
  Makes sense, no worries!