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In fact, I'd say you should do more. Stop being a programmer. It's hard to get a job as a developer these days, and it'll all be outsourced to India and China s
by ootachi 15y ago
In fact, I'd say you should do more. Stop being a programmer. It's hard to get a job as a developer these days, and it'll all be outsourced to India and China soon anyway. Instead, you should go into sales and marketing.
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- untog 15y ago* It's hard to get a job as a developer these days* ...uh, where exactly? Everywhere I know of is crying out for developers. The case for outsourcing is hugely overstated- having your entire development team half the world and a seven hour time difference away is a very real issue.
- ootachi 15y agoIn the Bay Area. Everyone claims to be crying out for developers, but they reject all the candidates they're presented with, so in practice it's hard to get a job as a developer.
- untog 15y agoI think what you mean to say is "it's hard to get a job as a developer if you're not a good candidate".
- ootachi 15y agoMore like "it's hard to get a job as a developer because companies' perceptions of 'good candidates' exclude everybody".
- tibbon 15y agoIf you're actually a good developer (and easy person to get along with, not a serial murderer, etc) and in the bay area and can't find a programming gig... I don't know what you're doing wrong. I'm not the best developer in the world, and I practically get offers in just going to bars in SF...
- eli_gottlieb 15y agoI'd actually like to back him up on this, at least partially. There is an outcry for developers in the Bay Area, but mostly just in the Bay Area and mostly just for web/mobile developers. The shortage is hyper-specialized, and thus so are the job requirements, thus excluding most of us who call ourselves developers.
- untog 15y agoHm, well I'd say that if you are any other kind of developer looking for a job, it's really not that difficult to transition into web development. If it isn't what you want to do then that's fair enough, but it's where the market is.
- snowwrestler 15y agoThere is strong demand for developers in the Washington, DC area as well.
- mattdeboard 15y agoCan you please provide some advice on how to transition from my dead-end career as a programmer into a lucrative and fulfilling future in sales or marketing?
- ootachi 15y agoLearn to hustle.
- mattdeboard 15y agoHow do you think I became a programmer in the first place? I left marketing and hustled to become a programmer. I'm sorry you've shaved your beard or lost your passion or can't find a job. That's not the story for me. Hard work has taken me good places, and continues to do so. Hope you don't spend the rest of your life either trolling or being a miserable wretch shitting on successful people. :)