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Running a webserver on your phone incurs all the same issues plus it might be out of range or your phone might be off. So having a webserver on your phone is ac

by troupe 3y ago

Running a webserver on your phone incurs all the same issues plus it might be out of range or your phone might be off. So having a webserver on your phone is actually worse.

_xivi 3y ago
> Running a webserver on your phone incurs all the same issues Huh, what? The issues I mentioned proceed from using services you don't own or have power over. How can I suffer from such issues on my own device? > out of range or your phone might be off and? If the owner is ok with that, where is the problem? Are people not permitted to walk because a car is faster?
- jakelazaroff 3y ago
  What if your service provider cuts you off?
  - _xivi 3y ago
    I change the provider? Are you arguing I'm not allowed to host because a service can cut me off, so I need to open myself to more services that can cut me off?
    - somsak2 3y ago
      right, just like you can change the provider of your hosting.
      - _xivi 3y ago
        Why not work instead on reducing the number of roadblocks and services that you need to manage, rely on, hand over your rights to, and entrust them with your personal data? I don't know about you, but that seems to me the logical thing to do
        nomel 3y ago
        Convenience of course.
        _xivi 3y ago
        Great, that means we don't disagree Because the entire point of the article is that hosting on mobile should be indeed more convenient and accessible.
    - jakelazaroff 3y ago
      No, I’m saying that trusting [Internet service provider whom you don’t control] to keep your site up is pragmatically identical to trusting [web hosting company whom you don’t control] to do the same.
- purple_elephant 3y ago
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- troupe 3y ago
  Yes if none of those things are problems then it isn't an issue. Just that there aren't fewer issues with having a website on your phone by a company that doesn't have a core business of letting people serve http from their phone vs. having it hosted somewhere by a company where it IS their core business.
cma 3y ago
The third party doctrine means at any host your stuff can be warrantless searched, not the case for your phone except I guess that thing about anywhere 100 miles from a coast line or border or airport that covers most of the population.

by troupe 3y ago

Running a webserver on your phone incurs all the same issues plus it might be out of range or your phone might be off. So having a webserver on your phone is actually worse.

_xivi 3y ago

> Running a webserver on your phone incurs all the same issues Huh, what? The issues I mentioned proceed from using services you don't own or have power over. How can I suffer from such issues on my own device? > out of range or your phone might be off and? If the owner is ok with that, where is the problem? Are people not permitted to walk because a car is faster?

jakelazaroff 3y ago
What if your service provider cuts you off?
- _xivi 3y ago
  I change the provider? Are you arguing I'm not allowed to host because a service can cut me off, so I need to open myself to more services that can cut me off?
  - somsak2 3y ago
    right, just like you can change the provider of your hosting.
    - _xivi 3y ago
      Why not work instead on reducing the number of roadblocks and services that you need to manage, rely on, hand over your rights to, and entrust them with your personal data? I don't know about you, but that seems to me the logical thing to do
      - nomel 3y ago
        Convenience of course.
        _xivi 3y ago
        Great, that means we don't disagree Because the entire point of the article is that hosting on mobile should be indeed more convenient and accessible.
  - jakelazaroff 3y ago
    No, I’m saying that trusting [Internet service provider whom you don’t control] to keep your site up is pragmatically identical to trusting [web hosting company whom you don’t control] to do the same.
purple_elephant 3y ago
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troupe 3y ago
Yes if none of those things are problems then it isn't an issue. Just that there aren't fewer issues with having a website on your phone by a company that doesn't have a core business of letting people serve http from their phone vs. having it hosted somewhere by a company where it IS their core business.

cma 3y ago

The third party doctrine means at any host your stuff can be warrantless searched, not the case for your phone except I guess that thing about anywhere 100 miles from a coast line or border or airport that covers most of the population.