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Grad students are both apprentices and employees. Typically the university charges tuition which is waived if they TA (teaching assistant) or their research ad
by theGnuMe 3y ago
Grad students are both apprentices and employees. Typically the university charges tuition which is waived if they TA (teaching assistant) or their research advisor (or department) funds them out of their grant or operating budget. I don't know for sure if this is the reason but it is a sleight of hand to either get more grant money into the operating budget. Grants typically allow some percentage overhead, I don't know if research associates are included in that or separate chargeable "line items".
Anyway it is like this all across academia except for the "exceptional" students who are recruited. They tend to get everything paid for.
UCLA, UCSC, all of them pay poverty wages. Grad students have started unionizing though to get better conditions. In reality grad school in the US is basically an immigration pipeline. We should import the best and brightest. The New York times says 80% of US grad students are foreign [1]. This is the reverse of 80% of all US college students being US citizens.
That's absolutely crazy to think about. Why aren't more US citizens going to grad school?
Either they are not qualified, which means we are not educating our college students to a sufficient standard, the poverty wages are so detrimental that only foreigners will put up with it. Something is clearly broken.
1. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/03/education/edlife/american-graduate-student-stem.html https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/03/education/edlife/american...
- kilotaras 3y ago> Either they are not qualified, which means we are not educating our college students to a sufficient standard, the poverty wages are so detrimental that only foreigners will put up with it. The third possibility is of course that top 1% of the college students outside of US are better than 10th percentile of college students inside.
- jwestbury 3y agoOr, fourth possibility: US universities are some of the best in the world, and whilst undergraduate education in one's home country doesn't have a substantial quality gap, graduate education very well may. On average, rankings of the world's top universities are about 60% US universities and 30% UK universities (just from a quick survey of ~5 ranking systems). Given this, it makes sense that graduate programs would attract a larger share of immigrants than undergraduate programs, as the reputation of the university is far more important for grad students than undergrad. Frankly, I struggle to see why a large share of immigrants is a problem: It's a good way for the US to absorb huge amounts of global talent. If even half of the students stay in the US for their academic careers, it's a major win for the US. I can't really imagine a non-racist reason to oppose this.