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This is too real in big corp as well as the VC funded start up world. A bunch of bourgeoisie over-educated idiots, usually with MBAs, who don't know how to do

This is too real in big corp as well as the VC funded start up world. A bunch of bourgeoisie over-educated idiots, usually with MBAs, who don't know how to do anything except take credit for work that other people do.

Xeoncross 3y ago
The solutions presented great. The made sense. They smelled good. They made great leadership stories. ...but none of it actually mattered to the customer.
- fuzztester 3y ago
  Yeah! Reminds me of a project life cycle cartoon I first saw in a software book early in my career. Just now searched for "systems analysis tyre cartoon" and selected this page, which seems the best, on a brief look, since it has both some history and multiple versions of the cartoon: https://www.businessballs.com/amusement-stress-relief/tree-swing-cartoon-pictures-early-versions/ https://www.businessballs.com/amusement-stress-relief/tree-s...
  - thih9 3y ago
    There are more modern versions too, with additional panels, like: https://pmac-agpc.ca/sites/default/files/Tree.jpg https://pmac-agpc.ca/sites/default/files/Tree.jpg I especially like “how the customer was billed”.
    - fuzztester 3y ago
      My link actually includes yours and many more, even non-computer ones.
      - thih9 3y ago
        Where exactly? I’m not seeing it; I’m on mobile if that matters.
        fuzztester 3y ago
        Mobile here too. You have to scroll down. Edit: Sorry, I was wrong. Must have mixed them up.
        thih9 3y ago
        No problem, thanks for checking.
    - fuzztester 3y ago
      >I especially like “how the customer was billed”. Good one. A Bridge Too Far ... (1) I shall sell them a naayysse lil ship in Arizona. (1) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Bridge_Too_Far_(film) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Bridge_Too_Far_(film)
    - acters 3y ago
      I like number 7, the documentation one, which really goes to show how little the real item is understood while everyone else is creating/imagining their own version. Dissociation within the whole team.
      - fuzztester 3y ago
        Nice one, I mean, nice seven. ;-) Also, after reading your comment, I went back and looked at all the panels. I now see a Zen-like quality of nothingness in 5, 7 and 10.
alex_lav 3y ago
I worked at a startup that had <4 months of runway left and thought the best plan was to bring on a VP of Data Science because of their resume/history, in spite of the fact that we had no data to do science on and no customers for which to provide value via data science. That VP of Data Science turned out to be a person that didn't know how to do much more than, as the article said, "build and scale amazing teams". The story ends as you'd expect, we all got laid off and the founder was shitty.
- game_the0ry 3y ago
  > I worked at a startup that had <4 months of runway left and thought the best plan was to bring on a VP of Data Science because of their resume/history, in spite of the fact that we had no data to do science on and no customers for which to provide value via data science. I could see this happening with AI.
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Xeoncross 3y ago

The solutions presented great. The made sense. They smelled good. They made great leadership stories. ...but none of it actually mattered to the customer.

fuzztester 3y ago
Yeah! Reminds me of a project life cycle cartoon I first saw in a software book early in my career. Just now searched for "systems analysis tyre cartoon" and selected this page, which seems the best, on a brief look, since it has both some history and multiple versions of the cartoon: https://www.businessballs.com/amusement-stress-relief/tree-swing-cartoon-pictures-early-versions/ https://www.businessballs.com/amusement-stress-relief/tree-s...
- thih9 3y ago
  There are more modern versions too, with additional panels, like: https://pmac-agpc.ca/sites/default/files/Tree.jpg https://pmac-agpc.ca/sites/default/files/Tree.jpg I especially like “how the customer was billed”.
  - fuzztester 3y ago
    My link actually includes yours and many more, even non-computer ones.
    - thih9 3y ago
      Where exactly? I’m not seeing it; I’m on mobile if that matters.
      - fuzztester 3y ago
        Mobile here too. You have to scroll down. Edit: Sorry, I was wrong. Must have mixed them up.
        thih9 3y ago
        No problem, thanks for checking.
  - fuzztester 3y ago
    >I especially like “how the customer was billed”. Good one. A Bridge Too Far ... (1) I shall sell them a naayysse lil ship in Arizona. (1) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Bridge_Too_Far_(film) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Bridge_Too_Far_(film)
  - acters 3y ago
    I like number 7, the documentation one, which really goes to show how little the real item is understood while everyone else is creating/imagining their own version. Dissociation within the whole team.
    - fuzztester 3y ago
      Nice one, I mean, nice seven. ;-) Also, after reading your comment, I went back and looked at all the panels. I now see a Zen-like quality of nothingness in 5, 7 and 10.

alex_lav 3y ago

I worked at a startup that had <4 months of runway left and thought the best plan was to bring on a VP of Data Science because of their resume/history, in spite of the fact that we had no data to do science on and no customers for which to provide value via data science. That VP of Data Science turned out to be a person that didn't know how to do much more than, as the article said, "build and scale amazing teams". The story ends as you'd expect, we all got laid off and the founder was shitty.

game_the0ry 3y ago
> I worked at a startup that had <4 months of runway left and thought the best plan was to bring on a VP of Data Science because of their resume/history, in spite of the fact that we had no data to do science on and no customers for which to provide value via data science. I could see this happening with AI.

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