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That's not been my experience with hiring. My experience has been that 9 out of 10 resumes that cross my desk have almost no relevant job experience at all. I'

That's not been my experience with hiring. My experience has been that 9 out of 10 resumes that cross my desk have almost no relevant job experience at all. I'd love to have someone apply to a .NET desktop app position with 5 years of solid experience building Java web services. I'd love to fill a Node.js web service position with at least someone who spent 10 years writing embedded C for home automation devices. Hell, I'll take a brand new CS grad who built a janky Unity3D app in their spare time, not because it was a school project, but because they just wanted to. What I get is IT network technicians who took a programming certification, substitute teachers who 15 years ago did software QA testing, public policy majors who dabbled with Matlab or Python in grad school, boot camp grads who haven't touched programming again since they finished their 8 week course 10 months ago. People who have never had any experience with the care and feeding of any kind of software project that other people had to work with them on for any significant time. I'll get 1 resume out of the batch (and they always come in groups of 10) that is just a software developer: for whatever N years of experience, at least the most recent .8N has been software. Then it comes down to figuring out if they were actually a contributing member or spent most of their time hiding in a large team.

listenallyall 3y ago
> My experience has been that 9 out of 10 resumes that cross my desk have almost no relevant job experience at all. We're all out here shedding a tear for you. Not too sure what you expect, as they say, the real talent doesn't need to apply to job postings and submit resumes blindly. With that said, is there anything in your .NET desktop job posting that would encourage a Java web service developer to apply? The first day of every month a bunch of people with widely varying backgrounds and experience post on this very site that they are seeking work... ever reach out to any of them?
- scarface_74 3y ago
  This is what I find amazing about a lot of the replies I see here. I saw the writing on the wall four months ago that I was probably going to be “Amazoned” soon after my manager left. I’ve been warming up my network like crazy over the past four months, preparing my resume and career document, etc. I keep my network semi-warm regardless. When the day came and I had the offer to quit and get big check or stay, I chose the quit option, before my last day, I had one manager trying to create a position for me, a second round scheduled with another former company and a third and final round scheduled at a third company. All based on networking. It’s foolish in this market to hope something is going to happen quickly by randomly uploading your resume to an ATS and keyword stuffing your resume like an SEO technique from the 90s trying to juice your position on Altavista. On the hiring side, a hiring manager also needs a network that they can call on when trying to find candidates.
- johnnyanmac 3y ago
  >the real talent doesn't need to apply to job postings and submit resumes blindly. I think there's a huge valley of difference between "no relevant job experience" and "real talent". I do a mix of job postings to stuff that looks interesting while also talking to my network.

listenallyall 3y ago

> My experience has been that 9 out of 10 resumes that cross my desk have almost no relevant job experience at all. We're all out here shedding a tear for you. Not too sure what you expect, as they say, the real talent doesn't need to apply to job postings and submit resumes blindly. With that said, is there anything in your .NET desktop job posting that would encourage a Java web service developer to apply? The first day of every month a bunch of people with widely varying backgrounds and experience post on this very site that they are seeking work... ever reach out to any of them?

scarface_74 3y ago
This is what I find amazing about a lot of the replies I see here. I saw the writing on the wall four months ago that I was probably going to be “Amazoned” soon after my manager left. I’ve been warming up my network like crazy over the past four months, preparing my resume and career document, etc. I keep my network semi-warm regardless. When the day came and I had the offer to quit and get big check or stay, I chose the quit option, before my last day, I had one manager trying to create a position for me, a second round scheduled with another former company and a third and final round scheduled at a third company. All based on networking. It’s foolish in this market to hope something is going to happen quickly by randomly uploading your resume to an ATS and keyword stuffing your resume like an SEO technique from the 90s trying to juice your position on Altavista. On the hiring side, a hiring manager also needs a network that they can call on when trying to find candidates.
johnnyanmac 3y ago
>the real talent doesn't need to apply to job postings and submit resumes blindly. I think there's a huge valley of difference between "no relevant job experience" and "real talent". I do a mix of job postings to stuff that looks interesting while also talking to my network.