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internet archive should move their server/business to china or russia so these greedy companies more hard to touch them

by hunters_laptop 3y ago

consumer451 3y ago
Would they allow permanently archiving content which is censored by their own regimes?
- pessimizer 3y ago
  Their own governments.
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  - consumer451 3y ago
    “Government” implies a hint of civil respect. I have none in either case. NK needs no explanation, I hope. Here is the most recent example of why I have no respect for the system in Russia: https://www.businessinsider.in/politics/world/news/kremlin-says-russia-theoretically-doesnt-need-to-hold-elections-next-year-because-putin-will-obviously-win/articleshow/102545398.cms https://www.businessinsider.in/politics/world/news/kremlin-s...
    - hunters_laptop 3y ago
      funny thing business insider aint respectable source too
      - consumer451 3y ago
        What would you list as respectable sources?
- hunters_laptop 3y ago
  tbh Im not sure what do you mean, since 40% of my comments at hacker news are get censored, is HN a chinese or russian org?
  - consumer451 3y ago
    > tbh Im not sure what do you mean Let me break it down: - Archives attempt to backup Wikipedia.org for one thing. - Wikipedia.org is blocked in Russia and China. - Therefore it is logical to assume that they would not allow the hosting of an archive of a blocked site, in their own country. The remainder of your comment is illogical.
izzydata 3y ago
We need servers in space. I wonder if the latency would be good or bad.
- williamtrask 3y ago
  ...huh... there's an idea Would just routing the data via starlink be good enough? (if you could hide the original location)
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hilbert42 3y ago
This isn't a new concept. Those of us who are old enough will remember the UK pirate radio station Radio Caroline. It was a ship in international waters broadcasting into areas that required a broadcasting license. It was so effective that it eventually changed the whole broadcasting environment: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Caroline https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Caroline I reckon there's considerable truth in what kmeisthax said in his post about the US political system, in that copyright and patent laws are so ingrained in US political class thinking that antiquated IP laws will never be reformed. Perhaps the only practical solution is ignore the US and bypass it altogether. A ship like Radio Caroline equipped with internet servers in international waters may be the only viable way we'll ever get to achieving a fair and equitable solution to the IP mess—that is to just bypass it.

internet archive should move their server/business to china or russia so these greedy companies more hard to touch them

consumer451 3y ago

Would they allow permanently archiving content which is censored by their own regimes?

pessimizer 3y ago
Their own governments.
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  [deleted]
- consumer451 3y ago
  “Government” implies a hint of civil respect. I have none in either case. NK needs no explanation, I hope. Here is the most recent example of why I have no respect for the system in Russia: https://www.businessinsider.in/politics/world/news/kremlin-says-russia-theoretically-doesnt-need-to-hold-elections-next-year-because-putin-will-obviously-win/articleshow/102545398.cms https://www.businessinsider.in/politics/world/news/kremlin-s...
  - hunters_laptop 3y ago
    funny thing business insider aint respectable source too
    - consumer451 3y ago
      What would you list as respectable sources?
hunters_laptop 3y ago
tbh Im not sure what do you mean, since 40% of my comments at hacker news are get censored, is HN a chinese or russian org?
- consumer451 3y ago
  > tbh Im not sure what do you mean Let me break it down: - Archives attempt to backup Wikipedia.org for one thing. - Wikipedia.org is blocked in Russia and China. - Therefore it is logical to assume that they would not allow the hosting of an archive of a blocked site, in their own country. The remainder of your comment is illogical.

izzydata 3y ago

We need servers in space. I wonder if the latency would be good or bad.

williamtrask 3y ago
...huh... there's an idea Would just routing the data via starlink be good enough? (if you could hide the original location)
- deleted 3y ago
  [deleted]

hilbert42 3y ago

This isn't a new concept. Those of us who are old enough will remember the UK pirate radio station Radio Caroline. It was a ship in international waters broadcasting into areas that required a broadcasting license. It was so effective that it eventually changed the whole broadcasting environment: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Caroline https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Caroline I reckon there's considerable truth in what kmeisthax said in his post about the US political system, in that copyright and patent laws are so ingrained in US political class thinking that antiquated IP laws will never be reformed. Perhaps the only practical solution is ignore the US and bypass it altogether. A ship like Radio Caroline equipped with internet servers in international waters may be the only viable way we'll ever get to achieving a fair and equitable solution to the IP mess—that is to just bypass it.