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I chose to purchase a phone that can’t do this. I’m fine with that. I’d rather my phone be how it is. I don’t need some nerd fighting for me in some imagined ba

I chose to purchase a phone that can’t do this. I’m fine with that. I’d rather my phone be how it is. I don’t need some nerd fighting for me in some imagined battle. I am incredibly sick of this line of reasoning. Anyone who spends any time arguing this point quite clearly has too much time on their hands and no real problems. It’s utterly cringey. Leave me be.

saagarjha 3y ago
I fail to see how this has anything to do with what your personal preferences are?
nulld3v 3y ago
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smoldesu 3y ago
I come baring bad news; your smartphone can host webpages whether you like it or not. Worse yet, it can use it's browser to render arbitrary pages of data (detestable feature) and even execute code when given permission by the kernel. Very scary stuff. Thankfully, nobody will be forcing you to use this feature; it shouldn't bother someone who ignores it. It is a feature of your phone though, unless you're daily-driving a pager or 2G Nokia. Hopefully this helps you make peace with the "utterly cringey" reality of modern computing.
behringer 3y ago
You fail to see the irony that the only reason you have it so good with your phone software is because of the pushback of open source and open standards the nerds have had to always fight for.
- relativ575 3y ago
  The only reason? Tech people here have some very self-flattery view. The main reason, and I wouldn't call it the only reason, the phone being an essential item is because it meets the needs of average consumers, not just for the tiny tech population. If a website is what everyone wants, then trust me it will be front and center in any phone ads, not the camera.
indymike 3y ago
> Anyone who spends any time arguing this point quite clearly has too much time on their hands and no real problems. Actually, trying to argue against something that you will not use, but others would use, that has no other effect on you, harms yourself (you might change your mind later) and harms others.
ilyt 3y ago
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postalrat 3y ago
What are you gaining by entering this fight? Step aside.
- paulcole 3y ago
  Totally agree. Let’s keep this the one-sided echo chamber it was designed to be.
  - gertlex 3y ago
    It was probably more reference to tmpX7dMeXU's pointless rambling response than a desire to not hear actual arguments.
teddyh 3y ago
“Give it a rest already. Maybe we just want to live our lives and use software that works, not get wrapped up in your stupid nerd turf wars.” — <https://xkcd.com/743/ https://xkcd.com/743/>
- ehutch79 3y ago
  The lesson is open source needs to produce more accessible, usable software instead playing Cassandra
  - ElectricalUnion 3y ago
    But if you have usable software how you're gonna ask for consulting and maintenance contracts? /s
  - smoldesu 3y ago
    Did you post this comment before the third panel loaded, or are you in abject denial of the power you lack as a user of services such as Hacker News?
    - ehutch79 3y ago
      I have no idea what you mean by this. Can you explain please?
- Cyphase 3y ago
  Not that a comic proves anything either way, but if you're going to quote that part, let's include the entire text (copied from https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/743#Transcript https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/743#Transcript): 2003: [Cueball approaches a bearded fellow.] Cueball: Did you get my essay? Bearded Fellow: Yeah, it was good! But it was a .doc; You should really use a more open- Cueball: Give it a rest already. Maybe we just want to live our lives and use software that works, not get wrapped up in your stupid nerd turf wars. Bearded Fellow: I just want people to care about the infrastructures we're building and who- Cueball: No, you just want to feel smugly superior. You have no sense of perspective and are probably autistic. 2010: Cueball: Oh my God! We handed control of our social world to Facebook and they're DOING EVIL STUFF! Bearded Fellow: Do you see this? [Inset, the bearded fellow rubs his index and middle fingers against his thumb.] Bearded Fellow: It's the world's tiniest open-source violin.
yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago
...you don't have use for a feature so you don't think anyone should want it?

saagarjha 3y ago

I fail to see how this has anything to do with what your personal preferences are?

nulld3v 3y ago

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smoldesu 3y ago

I come baring bad news; your smartphone can host webpages whether you like it or not. Worse yet, it can use it's browser to render arbitrary pages of data (detestable feature) and even execute code when given permission by the kernel. Very scary stuff. Thankfully, nobody will be forcing you to use this feature; it shouldn't bother someone who ignores it. It is a feature of your phone though, unless you're daily-driving a pager or 2G Nokia. Hopefully this helps you make peace with the "utterly cringey" reality of modern computing.

behringer 3y ago

You fail to see the irony that the only reason you have it so good with your phone software is because of the pushback of open source and open standards the nerds have had to always fight for.

relativ575 3y ago
The only reason? Tech people here have some very self-flattery view. The main reason, and I wouldn't call it the only reason, the phone being an essential item is because it meets the needs of average consumers, not just for the tiny tech population. If a website is what everyone wants, then trust me it will be front and center in any phone ads, not the camera.

indymike 3y ago

> Anyone who spends any time arguing this point quite clearly has too much time on their hands and no real problems. Actually, trying to argue against something that you will not use, but others would use, that has no other effect on you, harms yourself (you might change your mind later) and harms others.

ilyt 3y ago

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postalrat 3y ago

What are you gaining by entering this fight? Step aside.

paulcole 3y ago
Totally agree. Let’s keep this the one-sided echo chamber it was designed to be.
- gertlex 3y ago
  It was probably more reference to tmpX7dMeXU's pointless rambling response than a desire to not hear actual arguments.

teddyh 3y ago

“Give it a rest already. Maybe we just want to live our lives and use software that works, not get wrapped up in your stupid nerd turf wars.” — <https://xkcd.com/743/ https://xkcd.com/743/>

ehutch79 3y ago
The lesson is open source needs to produce more accessible, usable software instead playing Cassandra
- ElectricalUnion 3y ago
  But if you have usable software how you're gonna ask for consulting and maintenance contracts? /s
- smoldesu 3y ago
  Did you post this comment before the third panel loaded, or are you in abject denial of the power you lack as a user of services such as Hacker News?
  - ehutch79 3y ago
    I have no idea what you mean by this. Can you explain please?
Cyphase 3y ago
Not that a comic proves anything either way, but if you're going to quote that part, let's include the entire text (copied from https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/743#Transcript https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/743#Transcript): 2003: [Cueball approaches a bearded fellow.] Cueball: Did you get my essay? Bearded Fellow: Yeah, it was good! But it was a .doc; You should really use a more open- Cueball: Give it a rest already. Maybe we just want to live our lives and use software that works, not get wrapped up in your stupid nerd turf wars. Bearded Fellow: I just want people to care about the infrastructures we're building and who- Cueball: No, you just want to feel smugly superior. You have no sense of perspective and are probably autistic. 2010: Cueball: Oh my God! We handed control of our social world to Facebook and they're DOING EVIL STUFF! Bearded Fellow: Do you see this? [Inset, the bearded fellow rubs his index and middle fingers against his thumb.] Bearded Fellow: It's the world's tiniest open-source violin.

yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago

...you don't have use for a feature so you don't think anyone should want it?