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Poor Clares Convent Cemetery

34 points by Thevet 3y ago

ydnaclementine 3y ago
grim
- salad-tycoon 3y ago
  Momento Mori. Remember death. Long tradition, we have plenty of oddities to remind us of our too soon coming time. Chandeliers made of skeletons, for example. These things left after death aren’t worshipped but rather a reminder of death to spur people on to using their time remaining wisely, which I think brings down the creep factor but yes, weird to modern sensibilities for sure. Haven’t read this website but here are some pictures. https://www.swedishnomad.com/sedlec-ossuary-bone-church/ https://www.swedishnomad.com/sedlec-ossuary-bone-church/
  - bcraven 3y ago
    The Wellcome Collection is well known for such objects too: https://wellcomecollection.org/search/works?query=memento%20mori https://wellcomecollection.org/search/works?query=memento%20...
  - salad-tycoon 3y ago
    Also in our music, Dies Irae means day of wrath. Sung during Lent and funerals (pre 1962 funerals at least, now more often to hear stairway to heaven and on eagles wings). I think without even understanding the chant reflecting on the music helps to better understand the intent of these reminders. The music is somber and melancholic yet wishful, it’s conflicted. It presents the intersection of two hard wired things. On the one hand, we profess in an afterlife which, for those in heaven, there is perfect everything and forever and on the other hand the cruelty of death. No one wants to die yet if we truly believe that death is just the beginning of forever and that forever is perfect why would one not desire death in this world of unknowing and misery. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2OBB5-bP6qs https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2OBB5-bP6qs
coffee-- 3y ago
adding this to the next d&d dungeon
OfSanguineFire 3y ago
> Deceased nuns were placed on stone chairs to decompose, while the surviving nuns prayed near the lifeless bodies. This sounds fringe, and it may well have been by that time. But it isn’t all that different from the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd-century Christian practices that bothered the pagan Roman authorities: holding service in catacombs and holding the bones of the deceased.
- zdragnar 3y ago
  There is at least one non-Western culture that I am aware of that still practices essentially the same thing, though laying down rather than in a sitting position. I think it is only for a week, so probably not as unhygienic, I suppose. Even modern Orthodox tradition holds the relics (bits and bobs from corpses, as well as full ones) of saints in high regard.

34 points by Thevet 3y ago

ydnaclementine 3y ago

grim

salad-tycoon 3y ago
Momento Mori. Remember death. Long tradition, we have plenty of oddities to remind us of our too soon coming time. Chandeliers made of skeletons, for example. These things left after death aren’t worshipped but rather a reminder of death to spur people on to using their time remaining wisely, which I think brings down the creep factor but yes, weird to modern sensibilities for sure. Haven’t read this website but here are some pictures. https://www.swedishnomad.com/sedlec-ossuary-bone-church/ https://www.swedishnomad.com/sedlec-ossuary-bone-church/
- bcraven 3y ago
  The Wellcome Collection is well known for such objects too: https://wellcomecollection.org/search/works?query=memento%20mori https://wellcomecollection.org/search/works?query=memento%20...
- salad-tycoon 3y ago
  Also in our music, Dies Irae means day of wrath. Sung during Lent and funerals (pre 1962 funerals at least, now more often to hear stairway to heaven and on eagles wings). I think without even understanding the chant reflecting on the music helps to better understand the intent of these reminders. The music is somber and melancholic yet wishful, it’s conflicted. It presents the intersection of two hard wired things. On the one hand, we profess in an afterlife which, for those in heaven, there is perfect everything and forever and on the other hand the cruelty of death. No one wants to die yet if we truly believe that death is just the beginning of forever and that forever is perfect why would one not desire death in this world of unknowing and misery. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2OBB5-bP6qs https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2OBB5-bP6qs

coffee-- 3y ago

adding this to the next d&d dungeon

OfSanguineFire 3y ago

> Deceased nuns were placed on stone chairs to decompose, while the surviving nuns prayed near the lifeless bodies. This sounds fringe, and it may well have been by that time. But it isn’t all that different from the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd-century Christian practices that bothered the pagan Roman authorities: holding service in catacombs and holding the bones of the deceased.

zdragnar 3y ago
There is at least one non-Western culture that I am aware of that still practices essentially the same thing, though laying down rather than in a sitting position. I think it is only for a week, so probably not as unhygienic, I suppose. Even modern Orthodox tradition holds the relics (bits and bobs from corpses, as well as full ones) of saints in high regard.