Indeed; that is my objection to the loop and format in CL. But on the pragmatic side, if you want to interop with shell, or some other language/runtime, isn't

Indeed; that is my objection to the loop and format in CL. But on the pragmatic side, if you want to interop with shell, or some other language/runtime, isn't it sometimes easier and less typing and noise if a program can be expressed in DSL or as a mix of Lisp and a DSL than if everything is written in pure s-expressions?