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I start work around 6:00 AM and frequently am still at it at 8:00 PM. I've always been a top performer, but I still worry I'm not productive enough and that I'l

I start work around 6:00 AM and frequently am still at it at 8:00 PM. I've always been a top performer, but I still worry I'm not productive enough and that I'll get laid off. I still prefer this arrangement to going to the office.

eulgro 3y ago
Is this satire? If not I don't think that's a sustainable lifestyle.
- Tempest1981 3y ago
  You've never met a workaholic... it's sustainable for quite a while, for some.
  - ghaff 3y ago
    Much as many people here have a deep abiding dislike for executives, that's probably a pretty typical lifestyle for successful executives at a large company (or a startup) to which you can probably add months of every year on the road.
- doubled112 3y ago
  I know enough people in real life who are doing that regularly to know that isn't satire. Some of them never seem to get much accomplished, though, so I've often wondered if there is something else at play.
- sneak 3y ago
  I encourage you to visit Japan. With enough alcohol and caffeine, you would be astounded what the human body can sustain.
- chasd00 3y ago
  The people two rungs up the ladder from me in my consulting job work like this, if not more so. They all have families and are PTA presidents and things so def not absentee parents or spouses. Some people just have a seemingly unending source of energy and ambition.
  - foobar_______ 3y ago
    No, I'm sorry that's just not possible. I think they've done an excellent job tricking you and others into their ever present productivity.
wonderwonder 3y ago
This used to be me until I burned out for the second time about 4 years ago. Got a new job and now for the most part I "work" from 9 - 5 but in reality a solid 3 hours of that is just surfing the web. Still get good reviews but I'm not on the verge of collapse so thats pretty good. I just genuinely don't care so much anymore and its worked wonders for my outlook on life.
johnnyanmac 3y ago
>I still worry I'm not productive enough and that I'll get laid off that's the neat part; you get laid off anyway. Layoffs are rarely actually about keeping the most productive people on board. If they want your wing of work to be marked as a redundancy, there's not much you can do from a purely productive standpoint.
- xp84 3y ago
  And supposedly, layoffs aren’t legally allowed to be performance or merit-based! You’re supposed to lay off only for eliminating a position. When projects are shut down, that’s a natural one, but when it’s a X% cut of all engineering staff, for instance, it’s meant to be almost random, on paper at least. Of course in real life nobody would lay off the absolute most genius 10x developer, but nobody’s supposed to be laid off because they’re slackers. If they’re slackers that should be a separate issue and a PIP.
  - gambiting 3y ago
    >>And supposedly, layoffs aren’t legally allowed to be performance or merit-based! Where is that? Even in the EU where employee protections are very strong you can absolutely let go of someone because of poor performance, you just have to do the whole dance of giving them enough warnings, then a PIP, then you can terminate their employment as they are failing their contractual duties. It's not super simple but it is legal and it does happen.
    - tanjtanjtanj 3y ago
      Then it's not a layoff at that point.
      - gambiting 3y ago
        What's the difference?
        tanjtanjtanj 3y ago

eulgro 3y ago

Is this satire? If not I don't think that's a sustainable lifestyle.

Tempest1981 3y ago
You've never met a workaholic... it's sustainable for quite a while, for some.
- ghaff 3y ago
  Much as many people here have a deep abiding dislike for executives, that's probably a pretty typical lifestyle for successful executives at a large company (or a startup) to which you can probably add months of every year on the road.
doubled112 3y ago
I know enough people in real life who are doing that regularly to know that isn't satire. Some of them never seem to get much accomplished, though, so I've often wondered if there is something else at play.
sneak 3y ago
I encourage you to visit Japan. With enough alcohol and caffeine, you would be astounded what the human body can sustain.
chasd00 3y ago
The people two rungs up the ladder from me in my consulting job work like this, if not more so. They all have families and are PTA presidents and things so def not absentee parents or spouses. Some people just have a seemingly unending source of energy and ambition.
- foobar_______ 3y ago
  No, I'm sorry that's just not possible. I think they've done an excellent job tricking you and others into their ever present productivity.

wonderwonder 3y ago

This used to be me until I burned out for the second time about 4 years ago. Got a new job and now for the most part I "work" from 9 - 5 but in reality a solid 3 hours of that is just surfing the web. Still get good reviews but I'm not on the verge of collapse so thats pretty good. I just genuinely don't care so much anymore and its worked wonders for my outlook on life.

johnnyanmac 3y ago

>I still worry I'm not productive enough and that I'll get laid off that's the neat part; you get laid off anyway. Layoffs are rarely actually about keeping the most productive people on board. If they want your wing of work to be marked as a redundancy, there's not much you can do from a purely productive standpoint.

xp84 3y ago
And supposedly, layoffs aren’t legally allowed to be performance or merit-based! You’re supposed to lay off only for eliminating a position. When projects are shut down, that’s a natural one, but when it’s a X% cut of all engineering staff, for instance, it’s meant to be almost random, on paper at least. Of course in real life nobody would lay off the absolute most genius 10x developer, but nobody’s supposed to be laid off because they’re slackers. If they’re slackers that should be a separate issue and a PIP.
- gambiting 3y ago
  >>And supposedly, layoffs aren’t legally allowed to be performance or merit-based! Where is that? Even in the EU where employee protections are very strong you can absolutely let go of someone because of poor performance, you just have to do the whole dance of giving them enough warnings, then a PIP, then you can terminate their employment as they are failing their contractual duties. It's not super simple but it is legal and it does happen.
  - tanjtanjtanj 3y ago
    Then it's not a layoff at that point.
    - gambiting 3y ago
      What's the difference?
      - tanjtanjtanj 3y ago