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Exactly. The worry was that it would provide justification for violence against specific groups which is why it wasn't publicly entertained as a theory even if

Exactly. The worry was that it would provide justification for violence against specific groups which is why it wasn't publicly entertained as a theory even if privately it was. Planting the seed of that thought in an armed populace already on edge is a recipe for disaster.

kneebonian 3y ago
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- goatlover 3y ago
  Sarcasm? The science isn't settled regarding whether there was a lab leak.
- NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
  It just baffles me how people are shamed, and basically accused of attempted murder, and excluded from society in terms of public events, air travel, immigration, etc. when they make a choice about what to do with their own bodies in a medical situation. Do people in a free nation enjoy the right to choose treatment for our own bodies? Don't come at me about potential harm or risks that are measured in single-percentage-points. Vaccination is not the be-all, end-all of infection control.
  - AuthorizedCust 3y ago
    > Vaccination is not the be-all, end-all of infection control. For many diseases, it is, and we’re better off for that. E.g., measles.
    - NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
      We're better off without any other defense from viral infection? We have no other defense from measles except vaccination? Are you saying that, for measles, quarantines are ineffective, isolation is ineffective, negative pressure rooms are ineffective, contact tracing is ineffective? And we're better off because those are ineffective and we only have a single layer of defense? I'm a trained and experienced Cybersecurity professional, and by analogy to our Defense in Depth concepts, we're better off when there are multiple effective, overlapping, simultaneous defenses against some kind of attack. I think it would be foolish to abolish other defensive measures against measles only because vaccines are allegedly so effective. I knew a guy whose Linux login password was "abc", because he used MFA he said he didn't care.
- dang 3y ago
  We've banned this account for trolling. Please don't create accounts to break HN's rules with. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - albedoa 3y ago
    What are you doing. This account is way way way more dangerous and all over this comment section: https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=toomim https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=toomim
whatshisface 3y ago
Was there ever evidence, or was it just something people were saying?
- webnrrd2k 3y ago
  I remember that there was violence against asian-americans during the first two years of the C-19 pandemic. I could be wrong, but I remember that the violence was directed at them largely because of a right-wing conspiracy theory that the Chinese had purposly leaked the virus as a form of economic warfare.
  - iraqmtpizza 3y ago
    that narrative was literally made up to get revenge on Trump for saying China virus
  - deleted 3y ago
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metalspot 3y ago
i kneel before your noble lies, my philosopher king

kneebonian 3y ago

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goatlover 3y ago
Sarcasm? The science isn't settled regarding whether there was a lab leak.
NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
It just baffles me how people are shamed, and basically accused of attempted murder, and excluded from society in terms of public events, air travel, immigration, etc. when they make a choice about what to do with their own bodies in a medical situation. Do people in a free nation enjoy the right to choose treatment for our own bodies? Don't come at me about potential harm or risks that are measured in single-percentage-points. Vaccination is not the be-all, end-all of infection control.
- AuthorizedCust 3y ago
  > Vaccination is not the be-all, end-all of infection control. For many diseases, it is, and we’re better off for that. E.g., measles.
  - NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
    We're better off without any other defense from viral infection? We have no other defense from measles except vaccination? Are you saying that, for measles, quarantines are ineffective, isolation is ineffective, negative pressure rooms are ineffective, contact tracing is ineffective? And we're better off because those are ineffective and we only have a single layer of defense? I'm a trained and experienced Cybersecurity professional, and by analogy to our Defense in Depth concepts, we're better off when there are multiple effective, overlapping, simultaneous defenses against some kind of attack. I think it would be foolish to abolish other defensive measures against measles only because vaccines are allegedly so effective. I knew a guy whose Linux login password was "abc", because he used MFA he said he didn't care.
dang 3y ago
We've banned this account for trolling. Please don't create accounts to break HN's rules with. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- albedoa 3y ago
  What are you doing. This account is way way way more dangerous and all over this comment section: https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=toomim https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=toomim

whatshisface 3y ago

Was there ever evidence, or was it just something people were saying?

webnrrd2k 3y ago
I remember that there was violence against asian-americans during the first two years of the C-19 pandemic. I could be wrong, but I remember that the violence was directed at them largely because of a right-wing conspiracy theory that the Chinese had purposly leaked the virus as a form of economic warfare.
- iraqmtpizza 3y ago
  that narrative was literally made up to get revenge on Trump for saying China virus
- deleted 3y ago
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metalspot 3y ago

i kneel before your noble lies, my philosopher king