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37signals Datacenter Overview

46 points by mr_ndrsn 3y ago

Aerbil313 3y ago
Why all caps?
- kasdi 3y ago
  Title Case, not ALL CAPS
commandersaki 3y ago
I don't know much about BaseCamp, but I suspect it is a web application. I see they're using BGP Anycast to serve to the closest location. I looked in their further article for more detail but there wasn't really much information, but how does BGP Anycast work with TCP? I'm guessing they're doing everything best effort and hoping that when a route is chosen between Chicago & Virginia, that the closest path is taken at all times and there's no path "jitter" between Chicago & Virginia, e.g. a SYN packet won't go to Chicago and the following SYN+ACK go to Virginia. Anyone have any insights?
- pests 3y ago
  It's not a problem in practice. Here's an older article from LinkedIn talking about their results. https://engineering.linkedin.com/network-performance/tcp-over-ip-anycast-pipe-dream-or-reality https://engineering.linkedin.com/network-performance/tcp-ove...
SenHeng 3y ago
> All of 37signals’ apps Did they un-rename the company from Basecamp back to 37signals?
- tarellel 3y ago
  37signals is the company, Basecamp is one of their products.
  - gedy 3y ago
    Yes, but they renamed the company to Basecamp at some point, now it's back?
    - toomuchtodo 3y ago
      Yes. May 3, 2022. https://world.hey.com/jason/37signals-hello-again-117eae60 https://world.hey.com/jason/37signals-hello-again-117eae60
mempko 3y ago
Carbon neutral is a joke. How much carbon did it take to build the machines? Their power comes from renewable energy, but our renewable infrastructure is still being built with oil. Nothing is carbon neutral until we completely transition away from oil. Until then, it's all carbon at the base layer. We need to get off oil as quickly as possible and use our remaining carbon budget to build the non-carbon infrastructure. Until then it's all just marketing.
- c1sc0 3y ago
  Perfect is the enemy of the good. I had the same reflex as you: carbon credits are just a modern form of indulgences but they also finance carbon reduction projects that wouldn’t get built / researched. So it’s still a positive contribution. If you click the link in their article there’s a blog post with some more info about their carbon credit purchase strategy. And it seems reasonable. Not perfect. But a step in the right direction.

46 points by mr_ndrsn 3y ago

Aerbil313 3y ago

Why all caps?

kasdi 3y ago
Title Case, not ALL CAPS

commandersaki 3y ago

I don't know much about BaseCamp, but I suspect it is a web application. I see they're using BGP Anycast to serve to the closest location. I looked in their further article for more detail but there wasn't really much information, but how does BGP Anycast work with TCP? I'm guessing they're doing everything best effort and hoping that when a route is chosen between Chicago & Virginia, that the closest path is taken at all times and there's no path "jitter" between Chicago & Virginia, e.g. a SYN packet won't go to Chicago and the following SYN+ACK go to Virginia. Anyone have any insights?

pests 3y ago
It's not a problem in practice. Here's an older article from LinkedIn talking about their results. https://engineering.linkedin.com/network-performance/tcp-over-ip-anycast-pipe-dream-or-reality https://engineering.linkedin.com/network-performance/tcp-ove...

SenHeng 3y ago

> All of 37signals’ apps Did they un-rename the company from Basecamp back to 37signals?

tarellel 3y ago
37signals is the company, Basecamp is one of their products.
- gedy 3y ago
  Yes, but they renamed the company to Basecamp at some point, now it's back?
  - toomuchtodo 3y ago
    Yes. May 3, 2022. https://world.hey.com/jason/37signals-hello-again-117eae60 https://world.hey.com/jason/37signals-hello-again-117eae60

mempko 3y ago

Carbon neutral is a joke. How much carbon did it take to build the machines? Their power comes from renewable energy, but our renewable infrastructure is still being built with oil. Nothing is carbon neutral until we completely transition away from oil. Until then, it's all carbon at the base layer. We need to get off oil as quickly as possible and use our remaining carbon budget to build the non-carbon infrastructure. Until then it's all just marketing.

c1sc0 3y ago
Perfect is the enemy of the good. I had the same reflex as you: carbon credits are just a modern form of indulgences but they also finance carbon reduction projects that wouldn’t get built / researched. So it’s still a positive contribution. If you click the link in their article there’s a blog post with some more info about their carbon credit purchase strategy. And it seems reasonable. Not perfect. But a step in the right direction.