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Is energica really the leader in electric motorcycle sales? I couldnt find any stats but Ive definitely seen some zero bikes on the road and Ive never seen an e

by cdot2 3y ago

Is energica really the leader in electric motorcycle sales? I couldnt find any stats but Ive definitely seen some zero bikes on the road and Ive never seen an energica in person

eightnoneone 3y ago
It’s surely the leader in the bikes’ capabilities and reliability.
- knob 3y ago
  What's your source for this opinion?
  - eightnoneone 3y ago
    I’ve owned both.
    - jameson71 3y ago
      Then why don’t you tell us about them bother instead of sounding like a shill?
      - rasz 3y ago
        From Zero to Energica: 1 Year with an Energica Ribelle by NewZeroland https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne2GfBkxH2c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne2GfBkxH2c
  - tiew9Vii 3y ago
    I can’t comment on reliability, don’t own one. Enigica look to be following typical Italian exotica. It’s a premium/performance motorcycle with premium parts, breaks, suspension, handling etc. Zero seem more middle of the road. Not designed to be exotica, not designed with premium breaks, suspension, not designed for all out performance/handling, it’s a general purpose motorcycle designed for urban environments. I think Enigica and Zero are trying to target different segments and Enigica is targeting a segment above Zero. The sportier side.
JumpinJack_Cash 3y ago
They are going nowhere. Electric motorcycles are a terrible idea because they are not the problem as far as emission go. Given the ratio between the weight of the motorcycle and the weight of the passenger/s they are extemely efficient, having the whole passenger vehicles switch to motorcycles would be even better than have them switch to 3000 pounds EVs. The vast majority of people are too coward to drive them unfortunately
- serf 3y ago
  >The vast majority of people are too coward to drive them unfortunately you could frame regular motorcycles the same way. i'm not sure 'coward' is the right word either given the statistics. >Electric motorcycles are a terrible idea because they are not the problem as far as emission go. people aren't only into EVs for the environmental aspects; they're unique and offer a unique experience.
  - JumpinJack_Cash 3y ago
    > > people aren't only into EVs for the environmental aspects; they're unique and offer a unique experience. Automotive is a 150yr old industry, you will not re-invent the wheel. Progress has plateued in the 1970-80s as far as fun goes. When Americans come to Europe and try the Vespas and the Lambrettas , that's about the same fun upgrade as going from an ICE which does 0-60 in 8s to an EVs which does it in 4s, only the Vespa experience costs 20$ and the Vespa itself 1000$. for some reason they come back home and completely forget about it and decide to fork 50,000$ for an EV instead
  - jameson71 3y ago
    The statistics show that most people can’t handle a motor vehicle safely.
- bradly 3y ago
  > Electric motorcycles are a terrible idea because they are not the problem as far as emission go. There are other reasons to want an electric motorcycles besides low emissions.

by cdot2 3y ago

Is energica really the leader in electric motorcycle sales? I couldnt find any stats but Ive definitely seen some zero bikes on the road and Ive never seen an energica in person

eightnoneone 3y ago

It’s surely the leader in the bikes’ capabilities and reliability.

knob 3y ago
What's your source for this opinion?
- eightnoneone 3y ago
  I’ve owned both.
  - jameson71 3y ago
    Then why don’t you tell us about them bother instead of sounding like a shill?
    - rasz 3y ago
      From Zero to Energica: 1 Year with an Energica Ribelle by NewZeroland https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne2GfBkxH2c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne2GfBkxH2c
- tiew9Vii 3y ago
  I can’t comment on reliability, don’t own one. Enigica look to be following typical Italian exotica. It’s a premium/performance motorcycle with premium parts, breaks, suspension, handling etc. Zero seem more middle of the road. Not designed to be exotica, not designed with premium breaks, suspension, not designed for all out performance/handling, it’s a general purpose motorcycle designed for urban environments. I think Enigica and Zero are trying to target different segments and Enigica is targeting a segment above Zero. The sportier side.

JumpinJack_Cash 3y ago

They are going nowhere. Electric motorcycles are a terrible idea because they are not the problem as far as emission go. Given the ratio between the weight of the motorcycle and the weight of the passenger/s they are extemely efficient, having the whole passenger vehicles switch to motorcycles would be even better than have them switch to 3000 pounds EVs. The vast majority of people are too coward to drive them unfortunately

serf 3y ago
>The vast majority of people are too coward to drive them unfortunately you could frame regular motorcycles the same way. i'm not sure 'coward' is the right word either given the statistics. >Electric motorcycles are a terrible idea because they are not the problem as far as emission go. people aren't only into EVs for the environmental aspects; they're unique and offer a unique experience.
- JumpinJack_Cash 3y ago
  > > people aren't only into EVs for the environmental aspects; they're unique and offer a unique experience. Automotive is a 150yr old industry, you will not re-invent the wheel. Progress has plateued in the 1970-80s as far as fun goes. When Americans come to Europe and try the Vespas and the Lambrettas , that's about the same fun upgrade as going from an ICE which does 0-60 in 8s to an EVs which does it in 4s, only the Vespa experience costs 20$ and the Vespa itself 1000$. for some reason they come back home and completely forget about it and decide to fork 50,000$ for an EV instead
- jameson71 3y ago
  The statistics show that most people can’t handle a motor vehicle safely.
bradly 3y ago
> Electric motorcycles are a terrible idea because they are not the problem as far as emission go. There are other reasons to want an electric motorcycles besides low emissions.