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It makes me so sad that Russia has chosen to not be part of the western world going forward. Such a needless divorce created by Russia for what, so that they ca

It makes me so sad that Russia has chosen to not be part of the western world going forward. Such a needless divorce created by Russia for what, so that they can kill their 'brotherly' slavic neighbors? I always wanted to see the Hermitage. I have Russia adjacent ancestry (from talking to Russians online to try and trace it I was told I am jewish and not Russian and was then told in very crappy ways that the two are very much different). The old Russia literature is still great and of huge influence in the west and I am still very much interested in old Russia no matter that new Russia has chosen to extract themselves from the western world I live in and that embraced my great great grandparents when Russia rejected them.

chasil 3y ago
Well, the Russians that I know who live here in Iowa have made no such decision. The many nights that I have spent with them and the Ukrainians that have been drawn into their circle of friendship have an insoluble quality in the face of the catastrophic choices made by their countries. "That's why we left." Yes, I hope that these countries grow some political leadership that has more subtlety and ability to compromise. No, my friends had nothing to do with the Holodomor, the ceding of Crimea, the unacceptable invasions, or the resistance. These are stressful talks for friends. We try to avoid them.
cpursley 3y ago
Your two paragraphs seem to be at odds with each other. You’re interested in old Russia but upset they are not becoming homogenized by the West? Also, the world didn’t wholesale reject US culture after the needless destruction of Iraq, Syria, Libya and friends (just some recent examples).
13of40 3y ago
So go see the Hermitage. You probably need to spend more for the visa and transit through Turkey or Egypt, but odds are you aren't significant enough on the world stage to get picked up and harrassed for it. There's always been a split between what Putin is doing in his little tower in the Kremlin and what a normal person is doing walking through Kolomenskoye Park.
trefoiled 3y ago
It's entirely possible to travel to Russia, and not even inconvenient if you're an American. The flights are a little longer, but the visas are generous (3 year, multi entry). The amazing museums remain open, and the people are more friendly and hospitable than you'd expect.
vkazanov 3y ago
We're living through some unfortunate times. Eastern Europe is... becoming a much darker place. As somebody who grew up in a crazily mixed family (Polish, Russians, Lithuanians, with relatives all over the globe) I am used to visiting everybody, getting insights into how real daily life feels in respective countries. I have a soft spot for polish family-centric traditionalism, lithuanian love for the countryside, russian intelligentsia culture. And it's falling apart, all of it. I remember I promised my child that one day we'd get to see together the Peter's city, Hermitage, learn bits of lithuanian (which I still have some passive knowledge of), and go visit our numerous polish cousins, learn the history of the Old Town of Vilnius, all faces of it.
- cpursley 3y ago
  This will all pass. Take a look at YouTube. Plenty of westerners visiting (and even living in, raising their families) in those places still.

chasil 3y ago

Well, the Russians that I know who live here in Iowa have made no such decision. The many nights that I have spent with them and the Ukrainians that have been drawn into their circle of friendship have an insoluble quality in the face of the catastrophic choices made by their countries. "That's why we left." Yes, I hope that these countries grow some political leadership that has more subtlety and ability to compromise. No, my friends had nothing to do with the Holodomor, the ceding of Crimea, the unacceptable invasions, or the resistance. These are stressful talks for friends. We try to avoid them.

cpursley 3y ago

Your two paragraphs seem to be at odds with each other. You’re interested in old Russia but upset they are not becoming homogenized by the West? Also, the world didn’t wholesale reject US culture after the needless destruction of Iraq, Syria, Libya and friends (just some recent examples).

13of40 3y ago

So go see the Hermitage. You probably need to spend more for the visa and transit through Turkey or Egypt, but odds are you aren't significant enough on the world stage to get picked up and harrassed for it. There's always been a split between what Putin is doing in his little tower in the Kremlin and what a normal person is doing walking through Kolomenskoye Park.

trefoiled 3y ago

It's entirely possible to travel to Russia, and not even inconvenient if you're an American. The flights are a little longer, but the visas are generous (3 year, multi entry). The amazing museums remain open, and the people are more friendly and hospitable than you'd expect.

vkazanov 3y ago

We're living through some unfortunate times. Eastern Europe is... becoming a much darker place. As somebody who grew up in a crazily mixed family (Polish, Russians, Lithuanians, with relatives all over the globe) I am used to visiting everybody, getting insights into how real daily life feels in respective countries. I have a soft spot for polish family-centric traditionalism, lithuanian love for the countryside, russian intelligentsia culture. And it's falling apart, all of it. I remember I promised my child that one day we'd get to see together the Peter's city, Hermitage, learn bits of lithuanian (which I still have some passive knowledge of), and go visit our numerous polish cousins, learn the history of the Old Town of Vilnius, all faces of it.

cpursley 3y ago
This will all pass. Take a look at YouTube. Plenty of westerners visiting (and even living in, raising their families) in those places still.