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"No battle plan survives contact with the enemy." https://www.google.com/search?q=no+battle+plan+survives https://www.google.com/search?q=no+battle+plan+surviv
by fuzztester 3y ago
"No battle plan survives contact with the enemy."
https://www.google.com/search?q=no+battle+plan+survives https://www.google.com/search?q=no+battle+plan+survives
- fuzztester 3y agohttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmuth_von_Moltke_the_Elder https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmuth_von_Moltke_the_Elder Moltke's thesis was that military strategy had to be understood as a system of options, since it was possible to plan only the beginning of a military operation. As a result, he considered the main task of military leaders to consist in the extensive preparation of all possible outcomes.[3] His thesis can be summed up by two statements, one famous and one less so, translated into English as "No plan of operations extends with certainty beyond the first encounter with the enemy's main strength" (or "no plan survives contact with the enemy") and "Strategy is a system of expedients".[18][8] Right before the Austro-Prussian War, Moltke was promoted to General of the Infantry.[8]
- roughly 3y agoI’m reminded of the Eisenhower line: “plans are worthless, but planning is everything.”
- agrippanux 3y agoAlso Moltke: “no plan survives contact with the enemy”
- fuzztester 3y agoRecursion. ... Recursion
- fuzztester 3y agoClassic.
- kaba0 3y ago“No battle was ever won according to plan, but no battle was ever won without one” I heard it in this form.
- fuzztester 3y agoGood one indeed. Apropos of Eisenhower, there is an incredible (fiction) book by Larry Collins, called Fall from Grace. It is about a brilliant long term plan and actions by British and French secret services to deceive the Germans about where the final Allied invasion would happen on the shores of France near the end of WWII. According to the novel, the ruse helped win the war. Interwoven with a doomed romance. https://www.google.com/search?q=fall+from+grace+larry+collins https://www.google.com/search?q=fall+from+grace+larry+collin... I read the full book some years ago, and it was gripping, though slow in parts.
- sbuk 3y agoMike Tyson said it more simply: "Everybody has a plan until you get hit in the face."
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- fuzztester 3y agoNope. Let's juxtapose them and see: Von Moltke: "No battle plan survives contact with the enemy." Tyson: "Everybody has a plan until you get hit in the face." Pretty much the same meaning, and Von Moltke's quote is three words shorter, so no, Tyson's quote is not simpler. Also, Tyson was ungrammatical, IMO: "Everybody" vs. "you" in the same sentence, referring to the same entity. Grammar experts, correct me if I am wrong.
- fuzztester 3y agoAnd anyway, simplicity, although I favor it a lot in my work, is not a virtue in itself. As for many, if not most issues, the answer is "It all depends.".
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- eru 3y agoIf you want to express your disagreement with what fuzztester said, please say so. There's no need to attempt a mental diagnosis of people over the Internet. (Nor is there any need to equate thing you don't like with certain mental disorders. No need to be rude to autistic people like that.)
- eru 3y agoSimplicity isn't a function of number of words alone. > Also, Tyson was ungrammatical, IMO: > "Everybody" vs. "you" in the same sentence, referring to the same entity. Seems perfectly understandable to English speakers. (And that's pretty close to how English grammar is defined by descriptive linguists.) Have a look at http://fine.me.uk/Emonds/ http://fine.me.uk/Emonds/ for an exploration of these kinds of concepts.