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Why? For pay? SDEs at Amazon make more than a lot of C-level employees at smaller companies. Working conditions? Oh no, you have to show up to an air conditione

Why? For pay? SDEs at Amazon make more than a lot of C-level employees at smaller companies. Working conditions? Oh no, you have to show up to an air conditioned office three days a week (not even five!). The amount of entitlement is insane.

hdjjhhvvhga 3y ago
Yes it is. But there is a reason. I'm being paid a lot of money because the company finds value in what I do. If they play dirty tricks, I can either fight - and unionizing is one of the ways to do that - or just quit. There is nothing in unions that makes them somehow exclusive to low-wage jobs. FAANG, on the other hand, will vehemently fight against unions - and that's telling.
aaomidi 3y ago
You unionize when you have "power", not when you're out of power tbh. Anyway, throwaway account clearly shilling for companies. Interesting :)
- throwaway5959 3y ago
  It’s not a throwaway account, I just like watching people get twisted about a name instead of content.
  - joquarky 3y ago
    > I just like watching people get twisted I am certain that trolling is not allowed here.
    - throwaway5959 3y ago
      Where am I trolling? I can't help it if other people look more at username than the content I'm posting, which certainly isn't trolling if you look at my karma.
mlazos 3y ago
An idiotic policy is an idiotic policy. If I can deliver work from anywhere why tf does it matter where I am. I love how when it comes to “intangibles” like “collaboration” in person execs are geniuses but when it comes to “intangibles” like open office sucks for employee productivity they conveniently ignore it. The most hilarious part is remote saves even more money on office space!
bugglebeetle 3y ago
I don’t like being subject to the arbitrary whims of management’s stupid, baseless decision-making, without any form of recourse beside uprooting and starting over again somewhere else. This is sufficient enough for me to want a union. As for pay, I’m of the opinion that workers create the vast majority of value at companies, while the c-suites are largely sociopathic parasites, chasing whatever fads they heard about on the golf course, in between doing Game of Thrones shit to one another. So, even if tech workers at Amazon make more than people at small companies, I still think more of that money should be going to them than people saying “bow to my authority and show up in the office.”
ryandrake 3y ago
Definitely more things besides money that collective action can help with. OP spelled out three of them, why not re-read the post? > No one should put up with being treated like a child at work. No one should put up with being forced back into an office to put on a performance for management. And absolutely no one should put up with workplace surveillance. Already highly paid actors and sports figures have unions. It's not just about negotiating pay.

hdjjhhvvhga 3y ago

Yes it is. But there is a reason. I'm being paid a lot of money because the company finds value in what I do. If they play dirty tricks, I can either fight - and unionizing is one of the ways to do that - or just quit. There is nothing in unions that makes them somehow exclusive to low-wage jobs. FAANG, on the other hand, will vehemently fight against unions - and that's telling.

aaomidi 3y ago

You unionize when you have "power", not when you're out of power tbh. Anyway, throwaway account clearly shilling for companies. Interesting :)

throwaway5959 3y ago
It’s not a throwaway account, I just like watching people get twisted about a name instead of content.
- joquarky 3y ago
  > I just like watching people get twisted I am certain that trolling is not allowed here.
  - throwaway5959 3y ago
    Where am I trolling? I can't help it if other people look more at username than the content I'm posting, which certainly isn't trolling if you look at my karma.

mlazos 3y ago

An idiotic policy is an idiotic policy. If I can deliver work from anywhere why tf does it matter where I am. I love how when it comes to “intangibles” like “collaboration” in person execs are geniuses but when it comes to “intangibles” like open office sucks for employee productivity they conveniently ignore it. The most hilarious part is remote saves even more money on office space!

bugglebeetle 3y ago

I don’t like being subject to the arbitrary whims of management’s stupid, baseless decision-making, without any form of recourse beside uprooting and starting over again somewhere else. This is sufficient enough for me to want a union. As for pay, I’m of the opinion that workers create the vast majority of value at companies, while the c-suites are largely sociopathic parasites, chasing whatever fads they heard about on the golf course, in between doing Game of Thrones shit to one another. So, even if tech workers at Amazon make more than people at small companies, I still think more of that money should be going to them than people saying “bow to my authority and show up in the office.”

ryandrake 3y ago

Definitely more things besides money that collective action can help with. OP spelled out three of them, why not re-read the post? > No one should put up with being treated like a child at work. No one should put up with being forced back into an office to put on a performance for management. And absolutely no one should put up with workplace surveillance. Already highly paid actors and sports figures have unions. It's not just about negotiating pay.