> people get so upset when even very gentle criticism is leveled at their pet language (which in large part is positive! I literally said Haskell is a great fit

> people get so upset when even very gentle criticism is leveled at their pet language (which in large part is positive! I literally said Haskell is a great fit for a whole area of application) As a real world programmer your comment is just another "Haskell isn't good for real world IO heavy problems" argument that ironically doesn't hold up in the real world. Your concession of "good for pure and mathematical" just evokes "ah yeah, the ivory tower language unsuitable for real world applications". It ends up making your view seem balanced and authoritative while bolstering your overall point that you shouldn't use Haskell for serious non-academic things. Haskell isn't my pet language, it's the language that pays my rent :)