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It's laughable how symbolic and ultimately meaningless this is. GitHub has already proven themselves to be a good actor in this particular fight, so not only is
by branon 3y ago
It's laughable how symbolic and ultimately meaningless this is. GitHub has already proven themselves to be a good actor in this particular fight, so not only is the repo online, but we also have http://ytdl-org.github.io/youtube-dl/ http://ytdl-org.github.io/youtube-dl/
The Uberspace provider is appealing the decision as well. Even with the site down, this looks incredibly positive from where I sit. Rightsholders and litigators get stuffed, we always win!
- d0mine 3y agoMicrosoft is the freedom fighter? That it is indeed laughable.
- sgjohnson 3y agoMicrosoft has largely stopped giving a fuck about piracy of their consumer products. py-kms is freely available on GitHub, and so are Windows Activation Tools. While arguably py-kms doesn’t violate anything, as it’s a cleanroom implementation of the KMS server, Windows Activation Tools definitely does. Either way, MS could eradicate all of those repositories, they aren’t doing it.
- pengaru 3y ago> Either way, MS could eradicate all of those repositories, they aren’t doing it. yet
- autoexec 3y agoMS has done a good thing by defending youtube-dl but their lax enforcement concerning windows piracy is a bit different. MS turns a blind eye to windows piracy for the same reasons malware authors don't care if their software is spread on GitHub or P2P sites. Microsoft cares much more about getting their hands on all your personal data than they care about the money they'd get from an OEM license. People can download an ISO for Windows 11 for free from microsoft.com and simply never activate it.
- pessimizer 3y agoI don't think so. I think the real reason is that a pirated Windows install is not Mac or Linux, and will probably, eventually, become a legal Windows install. Imagine telling a bunch of possibly talented and/or ambitious poor people that they should use another (better) operating system. Instead, let them become Windows experts and ultimately make Microsoft more money.
- sitzkrieg 3y agoindeed, even if never a valid purchase, still a valuable datapoint for 99% of those "non tech savvy didnt block all the telemetry domains in their personal pihole, but managed to activated w massgrave" crowd
- skeaker 3y agoIt's also because MS makes way, way, way more money on business licenses than they do on individual consumer ones. They don't have much incentive to care about individuals not giving them a sale. Meanwhile, businesses are actively audited if they're suspected of violating license agreements.
- stu2b50 3y agoThe rise of SaaS has made piracy much less of a threat to revenue. Can’t pirate it if you need a server to do anything.
- TillE 3y agoIt is remarkable how easy they've made it to cleanly pirate Windows recently. You don't even need to run your own KMS thing, there are several public servers, and you just type in three terminal commands. Totally different from the Vista/7/8 era where activation required real cracking software. It's an explicit signal that they don't really care about consumer licensing.
- kzrdude 3y agoYoutube didn't care about piracy and copyright at all either. In their audience growth phase.
- boomboomsubban 3y agoMicrosoft did not face a court order, if they did they would surely immediately comply. They faced a seemingly fraudulent DMCA takedown notice, as takedowns are not designed to target circumvention tools. They did a good thing restoring youtube-dl, but I'd hardly say it puts them in "freedom fighter" territory, more so compared to Uberspace who are actively fighting for youtube-dl.
- em-bee 3y agoi'd rephrase that, rightsholders should not get stuffed, but these are not rightsholders because their rights are not being infringed by the mere existance of youtube-dl
- PartiallyTyped 3y ago[flagged]
- adgjlsfhk1 3y agoI'll take that trade
- PartiallyTyped 3y agoI would too. But i am saying if we are okay with gun manufacturers enabling death and murder, then by all means ytdl can and should stay up.
- DaiPlusPlus 3y ago> gun manufacturers enabling death and murder, then by all means ytdl can and should stay up. I assume you're referring to arms makers selling weapons that are obviously not for hunting game to the civilian market, rather than overall, because (such as it is) countries generally need defence-forces, and those forces do need arms.
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- PartiallyTyped 3y agoWell, of course I am referring to the obvious one. Humanity isn’t ready for the other one.
- b59831 3y ago[dead]
- tempodox 3y agoThe site is online, but the download link (https://yt-dl.org/downloads/latest/youtube-dl https://yt-dl.org/downloads/latest/youtube-dl) is borked: Due to a ruling of the Hamburg Regional Court, access to this website is blocked.
- codetrotter 3y agoThey can resolve that by not using absolute URLs maybe
- Sinescape 3y agoShame it merely responds with HTTP 403 and not 451.
- tempodox 3y agoTrue, that would have been most appropriate.
- eastbound 3y agoI wish it weren’t seen as a battle against rightholders. It’s a big burden for freedom of expression. When there is a lie spread by actual journalists, it’s extremely important to be able to download the video, criticize it, show the moment the journalist lies, reupload it. Otherwise we become like DDR Germany where the people in power never get criticized or held accountable for what they say. The shareholder rights are collateral damage, not the main damage. We’re not mainly using youtube-dl to copy copyrighted material.
- zlg_codes 3y agoIt seems fitting that it was a German court who handed down the braindead ruling.
- white_dragon88 3y ago[dead]