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Evidence for Large Climate Altering Thermonuclear Explosions on Mars in the Past

18 points by reocha 3y ago

mydriasis 3y ago
> It is hypothesized that two massive R-Process events occurred in mid-air over the Northern Plains of Mars. The R-Process is inferred to occur in astrophysical events, but has been seen on Earth in thermonuclear explosions [10]. In a planetary environment a large R-process event above the planetary surface would create powerful Tunguska-like explosions. Given the nitrogen and carbon dioxide components in the Mars atmosphere such fireballs would be expected generate large amounts of nitric acid. These hypothetical R-Process events caused the 129Xe/132Xe and 40Ar/36Ar excesses and occurred during the epoch of warm dense atmosphere on Mars, and terminated that epoch. R-process: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-process https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-process
herodotus 3y ago
From the intro, explaining various puzzles that have come to light about Mars: "It is the aim of this article to explain these salient puzzles with a new hypothesis: that Mars was the site of massive thermonuclear explosions, of unknown cause, in the recent geologic past. "
- herodotus 3y ago
  The plot of my next novel: Mars had a thriving population, with two powerful factions. They eventually annialated each other with two massive H-Bombs. Two small resourceful groups, called the Neanders and the Umanoids escaped by rocket ships just before Mutual Destruction, settling on a strange blue planet. By design, all knowledge about the world that was believed to have led to this catastrophe was destroyed, replaced by the elders of the two groups by silly stories about the creation of the world, and how future beings should behave.
  - barbazoo 3y ago
    Quick, before Graham Hancock beats you to it.
  - ctcherry 3y ago
    Sounds a bit like Raised by Wolves
  - rapnie 3y ago
    Rings of the Master-like but we never discovered the Rings to free ourselves from Master System. https://www.librarything.com/nseries/9494/Rings-of-the-Master https://www.librarything.com/nseries/9494/Rings-of-the-Maste...
  - dairem 3y ago
    You might like “Inherit the stars” by James P Hogan.
    - readthenotes1 3y ago
      I know I did!
bloopernova 3y ago
Well that's certainly an attention-grabbing headline! I'm assuming they're talking about an airburst type meteor like in Tunguska? I don't have access to the paper. EDIT: can an airburst meteor include a nuclear explosion? Would a comet or asteroid have such plutonium/uranium material, has that been observed in nature?
- reocha 3y ago
  It's open access (I think) just click the "Download full text pdf" button
philipkglass 3y ago
This is crankery. Here's a direct link to the paper: https://www.scirp.org/journal/paperinformation.aspx?paperid=125770 https://www.scirp.org/journal/paperinformation.aspx?paperid=... The author runs https://kepleraerospace.com/ https://kepleraerospace.com/ which claims to have developed "a suite of proprietary technologies ranging from exotic electromagnet propulsion, compact mobile fusion, gravity modification ..."
- TheBlight 3y ago
  Does it make a falsifiable prediction or not?
- daveloyall 3y ago
  Here is a direct response to the author's other work on the same topic: http://dorkmission.blogspot.com/2016/05/yes-folks-its-xenon-isotope-show.html http://dorkmission.blogspot.com/2016/05/yes-folks-its-xenon-... (2016)
  - everybodyknows 3y ago
    Hmmm: > The big feature of the nobles is that they don't form bonds with other elements, unlike carbon which will make molecules with anything that asks, the slut.
- bloopernova 3y ago
  "...exotic electromagnet propulsion, compact mobile fusion, gravity modification ..." Wow, they must be about to completely change the world with technology like that! More seriously, I really wish claims like that had to be backed up in a court of scientific law or something. The amount of grifters taking money from poorly educated people is really depressing. I know a court of scientific law sounds very authoritarian to some, and I apologize, but this shit harms so many and discredits so much legitimate science. Heck it literally kills people, as seen in the COVID-19 pandemic.
  - readthenotes1 3y ago
ortusdux 3y ago
Explosions & Fire? *Edit - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm9BFRP93_k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm9BFRP93_k
mhitza 3y ago
Before checking the comments I thought it was a troll paper that got through "peer review" because this is how it renders for me in Linux in both Firefox/Chrome https://imgur.com/FBDiIXb.png https://imgur.com/FBDiIXb.png
- daveloyall 3y ago
  Using the "download PDF" feature resolved that on my Firefox. Though, I don't seem to have gained much by seeing it rendered correctly.
bediger4000 3y ago
I have to confess that I love crankery like this! I'm looking for a similar type, some guy I ran across on Twitter I mean X a few years ago. He made a case for Ordovician period visit(s) by ETs based on chemical and isotope composition of Australian tektites, but I just can't find him again.
1letterunixname 3y ago
We need a dose of comedy every now and then. PS: The linked paper preview comes up as gibberish of mostly underscores and question marks. Voynich manuscript author rides again? Or maybe it's the answer to where The Buzzard left his loot?
gmuslera 3y ago
Didn't we have an April 1st this year already?

18 points by reocha 3y ago

> It is hypothesized that two massive R-Process events occurred in mid-air over the Northern Plains of Mars. The R-Process is inferred to occur in astrophysical events, but has been seen on Earth in thermonuclear explosions [10]. In a planetary environment a large R-process event above the planetary surface would create powerful Tunguska-like explosions. Given the nitrogen and carbon dioxide components in the Mars atmosphere such fireballs would be expected generate large amounts of nitric acid. These hypothetical R-Process events caused the 129Xe/132Xe and 40Ar/36Ar excesses and occurred during the epoch of warm dense atmosphere on Mars, and terminated that epoch. R-process: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-process https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-process

herodotus 3y ago

From the intro, explaining various puzzles that have come to light about Mars: "It is the aim of this article to explain these salient puzzles with a new hypothesis: that Mars was the site of massive thermonuclear explosions, of unknown cause, in the recent geologic past. "

herodotus 3y ago
The plot of my next novel: Mars had a thriving population, with two powerful factions. They eventually annialated each other with two massive H-Bombs. Two small resourceful groups, called the Neanders and the Umanoids escaped by rocket ships just before Mutual Destruction, settling on a strange blue planet. By design, all knowledge about the world that was believed to have led to this catastrophe was destroyed, replaced by the elders of the two groups by silly stories about the creation of the world, and how future beings should behave.
- barbazoo 3y ago
  Quick, before Graham Hancock beats you to it.
- ctcherry 3y ago
  Sounds a bit like Raised by Wolves
- rapnie 3y ago
  Rings of the Master-like but we never discovered the Rings to free ourselves from Master System. https://www.librarything.com/nseries/9494/Rings-of-the-Master https://www.librarything.com/nseries/9494/Rings-of-the-Maste...
- dairem 3y ago
  You might like “Inherit the stars” by James P Hogan.
  - readthenotes1 3y ago
    I know I did!

bloopernova 3y ago

Well that's certainly an attention-grabbing headline! I'm assuming they're talking about an airburst type meteor like in Tunguska? I don't have access to the paper. EDIT: can an airburst meteor include a nuclear explosion? Would a comet or asteroid have such plutonium/uranium material, has that been observed in nature?

reocha 3y ago
It's open access (I think) just click the "Download full text pdf" button

philipkglass 3y ago

This is crankery. Here's a direct link to the paper: https://www.scirp.org/journal/paperinformation.aspx?paperid=125770 https://www.scirp.org/journal/paperinformation.aspx?paperid=... The author runs https://kepleraerospace.com/ https://kepleraerospace.com/ which claims to have developed "a suite of proprietary technologies ranging from exotic electromagnet propulsion, compact mobile fusion, gravity modification ..."

TheBlight 3y ago
Does it make a falsifiable prediction or not?
daveloyall 3y ago
Here is a direct response to the author's other work on the same topic: http://dorkmission.blogspot.com/2016/05/yes-folks-its-xenon-isotope-show.html http://dorkmission.blogspot.com/2016/05/yes-folks-its-xenon-... (2016)
- everybodyknows 3y ago
  Hmmm: > The big feature of the nobles is that they don't form bonds with other elements, unlike carbon which will make molecules with anything that asks, the slut.
bloopernova 3y ago
"...exotic electromagnet propulsion, compact mobile fusion, gravity modification ..." Wow, they must be about to completely change the world with technology like that! More seriously, I really wish claims like that had to be backed up in a court of scientific law or something. The amount of grifters taking money from poorly educated people is really depressing. I know a court of scientific law sounds very authoritarian to some, and I apologize, but this shit harms so many and discredits so much legitimate science. Heck it literally kills people, as seen in the COVID-19 pandemic.
- readthenotes1 3y ago

ortusdux 3y ago

Explosions & Fire? *Edit - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm9BFRP93_k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm9BFRP93_k

mhitza 3y ago

Before checking the comments I thought it was a troll paper that got through "peer review" because this is how it renders for me in Linux in both Firefox/Chrome https://imgur.com/FBDiIXb.png https://imgur.com/FBDiIXb.png

daveloyall 3y ago
Using the "download PDF" feature resolved that on my Firefox. Though, I don't seem to have gained much by seeing it rendered correctly.

bediger4000 3y ago

I have to confess that I love crankery like this! I'm looking for a similar type, some guy I ran across on Twitter I mean X a few years ago. He made a case for Ordovician period visit(s) by ETs based on chemical and isotope composition of Australian tektites, but I just can't find him again.

1letterunixname 3y ago

We need a dose of comedy every now and then. PS: The linked paper preview comes up as gibberish of mostly underscores and question marks. Voynich manuscript author rides again? Or maybe it's the answer to where The Buzzard left his loot?

gmuslera 3y ago

Didn't we have an April 1st this year already?