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Disclaimer: I am not presenting myself as some sort of misunderstood astrophysics savant, but just wanting to engage in curious discussion to get even anywhere

by xattt 3y ago

Disclaimer: I am not presenting myself as some sort of misunderstood astrophysics savant, but just wanting to engage in curious discussion to get even anywhere close to scratching the surface to understanding. I wonder if this is the case at the “bounds” of the universe or why there are so many inverse or at least non-linear relationships between various forces. My thought is that you can’t get outside the universe, because space becomes warped in the sense that a short distance is extraordinarily “long”.

mrguyorama 3y ago
>My thought is that you can’t get outside the universe, because space becomes warped in the sense that a short distance is extraordinarily “long”. The problem with any discussion about these kinds of things is that there is zero information actually being exchanged. Our brains have several assumptions built in, like a concept of time. "Going outside the universe" is not something that can rigorously be discussed because "outside" probably isn't even something defineable """outside""" our """universe""". Hell, even the concept of "defining" something is entirely a starting assumption. It's like asking "what happened before the big bang?", well, "happened" is not something that even can be defined "before" the big bang. None of our definitions of ANYTHING can EVER make sense outside of our reality, or one that is nearly identical to it. Even "reality" is a definition that presupposes itself. Essentially, it's a malformed question, like "What time is blue?", there's no way to turn such a question into a meaningful evaluation.
- xattt 3y ago
  This boils down to reasons why language in different disciplines is so inaccessible to laypeople. If you don’t have standard terms of reference, you will get ambiguity and confusion.

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Disclaimer: I am not presenting myself as some sort of misunderstood astrophysics savant, but just wanting to engage in curious discussion to get even anywhere

by xattt 3y ago

mrguyorama 3y ago
>My thought is that you can’t get outside the universe, because space becomes warped in the sense that a short distance is extraordinarily “long”. The problem with any discussion about these kinds of things is that there is zero information actually being exchanged. Our brains have several assumptions built in, like a concept of time. "Going outside the universe" is not something that can rigorously be discussed because "outside" probably isn't even something defineable """outside""" our """universe""". Hell, even the concept of "defining" something is entirely a starting assumption. It's like asking "what happened before the big bang?", well, "happened" is not something that even can be defined "before" the big bang. None of our definitions of ANYTHING can EVER make sense outside of our reality, or one that is nearly identical to it. Even "reality" is a definition that presupposes itself. Essentially, it's a malformed question, like "What time is blue?", there's no way to turn such a question into a meaningful evaluation.
- xattt 3y ago
  This boils down to reasons why language in different disciplines is so inaccessible to laypeople. If you don’t have standard terms of reference, you will get ambiguity and confusion.