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> Further. This article is part of a flood of anti-supreme-court rhetoric that has started in the last couple of years, and I sense sinister political ends behi

> Further. This article is part of a flood of anti-supreme-court rhetoric that has started in the last couple of years, and I sense sinister political ends behind it. Yeah this was my gut reaction as well... Why all the hate on the Supreme Court lately? News you get for free is being paid for by someone / someorg. I want to know who's agenda is being pushed, and who is paying for these stories and why. Free news is just junk news (like junk mail) and needs to be ingested with a good measure of memetic resistance.

goosedragons 3y ago
Poor and unpopular rulings combined with revelations about serious amounts of grift going on? I don't think coverage is for sinister reasons.
- lordfrito 3y ago
  Well that's the obvious suspect. But those words are so loaded. Poor ruling? Isn't that an opinion? Unpopular rulings? Which ones are we talking about? Totally subjective. I get that some rulings are unpopular to those paying for the stories... But which rulings, what funding, and why now? Grift is just a clever/convenient "reason" to justify rhetoric like this. Show me the man and I'll show you the crime, etc.
  - avmich 3y ago
    > Unpopular rulings? Which ones are we talking about? Totally subjective. Which objective criteria you'd like to apply to determine this?
    - lordfrito 3y ago
      What's objective to me is the uptick in anti-supreme court articles largely based on strawmen and rhetoric. At least it "feels" objective to me. Like a meta trend, cultural undercurrents, etc, which I try to pay attention to as it helps me make more sense out of the "why" behind story trends. Beyond that its just guesswork. So more data is better. Maybe it's just trendy to crap on democracy, as our culture seems to enjoy crapping on anything that used to be deemed good/noble/just. Bad is good, right is wrong, etc. Or maybe it's just the old political tactics used by authoritarians... When winning they tend to talk about how "just" and "overdue" the ruling/decision/policy is. When losing they tend to resort to strawmen and character assassination, an Orwellian way of associating decisions they don't like with people of bad character. "Big brother can't be bad" "Oceana can't be good" etc Personally I don't like all the "crap on democracy" rhetoric that seems to be more and more pervasive. Especially in young people. I've heard it said "Democracy is the worst form of government – except for all the others that have been tried".
  - Auracle 3y ago
    Also, it’s not the job of the Supreme Court to make popular rulings. It’s actually pretty explicitly not, which is why they have lifetime appointments. Popularity belongs to the other two branches of the government.
thrawa8387336 3y ago
Free news is junk news. As the Last Psychiatrist said "if you're reading it, it's for you".
- lordfrito 3y ago
  Love this quote I'm stealing it. The older I get the more I see this stuff all around me. For some reason lately I've been hearing INXS songs everywhere, like 7 or 8 on satellite radio in just a few days. Followed by the same songs in a few bars we frequented. So much so that my GF noticed it as well. After the 7th or 8th time of pointing out it's another INXS song, my immediate thought was "This can't be coincidence. Who the heck is promoting INXS right now, and why?" As you said, the message was definitely meant for, and received by, us. I don't like not knowing why, because in the absence of data the mind will make up narratives to fit the data. Maybe INXS is being promoted. Maybe I'm just becoming paranoid. Then again, being paranoid doesn't make you wrong. I guess the point is it's hard to take anything in the media at face value these days.

goosedragons 3y ago

Poor and unpopular rulings combined with revelations about serious amounts of grift going on? I don't think coverage is for sinister reasons.

lordfrito 3y ago
Well that's the obvious suspect. But those words are so loaded. Poor ruling? Isn't that an opinion? Unpopular rulings? Which ones are we talking about? Totally subjective. I get that some rulings are unpopular to those paying for the stories... But which rulings, what funding, and why now? Grift is just a clever/convenient "reason" to justify rhetoric like this. Show me the man and I'll show you the crime, etc.
- avmich 3y ago
  > Unpopular rulings? Which ones are we talking about? Totally subjective. Which objective criteria you'd like to apply to determine this?
  - lordfrito 3y ago
    What's objective to me is the uptick in anti-supreme court articles largely based on strawmen and rhetoric. At least it "feels" objective to me. Like a meta trend, cultural undercurrents, etc, which I try to pay attention to as it helps me make more sense out of the "why" behind story trends. Beyond that its just guesswork. So more data is better. Maybe it's just trendy to crap on democracy, as our culture seems to enjoy crapping on anything that used to be deemed good/noble/just. Bad is good, right is wrong, etc. Or maybe it's just the old political tactics used by authoritarians... When winning they tend to talk about how "just" and "overdue" the ruling/decision/policy is. When losing they tend to resort to strawmen and character assassination, an Orwellian way of associating decisions they don't like with people of bad character. "Big brother can't be bad" "Oceana can't be good" etc Personally I don't like all the "crap on democracy" rhetoric that seems to be more and more pervasive. Especially in young people. I've heard it said "Democracy is the worst form of government – except for all the others that have been tried".
- Auracle 3y ago
  Also, it’s not the job of the Supreme Court to make popular rulings. It’s actually pretty explicitly not, which is why they have lifetime appointments. Popularity belongs to the other two branches of the government.

thrawa8387336 3y ago

Free news is junk news. As the Last Psychiatrist said "if you're reading it, it's for you".

lordfrito 3y ago
Love this quote I'm stealing it. The older I get the more I see this stuff all around me. For some reason lately I've been hearing INXS songs everywhere, like 7 or 8 on satellite radio in just a few days. Followed by the same songs in a few bars we frequented. So much so that my GF noticed it as well. After the 7th or 8th time of pointing out it's another INXS song, my immediate thought was "This can't be coincidence. Who the heck is promoting INXS right now, and why?" As you said, the message was definitely meant for, and received by, us. I don't like not knowing why, because in the absence of data the mind will make up narratives to fit the data. Maybe INXS is being promoted. Maybe I'm just becoming paranoid. Then again, being paranoid doesn't make you wrong. I guess the point is it's hard to take anything in the media at face value these days.