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all this has accomplished in the last decade is a decrease in market share You are confusing cause and effect. We've been saying the same things as we watch Mo

by causi 3y ago

all this has accomplished in the last decade is a decrease in market share You are confusing cause and effect. We've been saying the same things as we watch Mozilla slowly strangle Firefox to death for a decade. That said, this is great news. I'm very much looking forward to being able to capture embedded videos on Android and maybe even get back my precious DownThemAll.

mrguyorama 3y ago
Here's the thing: Mozilla could literally be shipping 2012 firefox, and I wouldn't give a fuck, and I would still use it. Why? Because they don't spend their days trying to make the internet a more ad infested dumpster fire and prevent me from blocking ads. Google is actively doing that every single fucking day with thousands of people working towards this goal, with Chrome being an essential tool in that process, as whatever chrome does, everyone else will be forced to do. Why the fuck would you enable that, even for a little "convenience"?
- FeepingCreature 3y ago
  > Mozilla could literally be shipping 2012 firefox That's called "Waterfox Classic".
godelski 3y ago
> We've been saying the same things as we watch Mozilla slowly strangle Firefox to death for a decade. Absolutely not true. I still hear people talking about FF as if it is pre-quantum. They complain about how slow it is. But quantum made it faster and more secure overnight. There's still a lot of people who are complaining and have just never tried it after the big issues were fixed. Or they try it, there's a small cognitive dissonance because checks notes "the interface is horrible", and so they call it slow attempting to justify why they dislike it rather than making an actual criticism or giving it a fair shot. Come on, the UI is almost identical across the board with browsers. And we're doing this for what... to give Google more power over the internet? I'm sorry, I think it is you who are confusing cause and effect. You participated in the monopolization of browsers and are suffering the consequences of it. Because of a little convenience. The path to hell is indeed paved with "good intentions." Little steps is all it takes to make progress over decades. Unless you can tell me there's a huge major problem with FF that outweighs the ad focused internet, then you have it backwards.
- causi 3y ago
  I'm sorry, I think it is you who are confusing cause and effect. You participated in the monopolization of browsers and are suffering the consequences of it. Because of a little convenience. The path to hell is indeed paved with "good intentions." Firefox has been my browser of choice since v1.5. If I didn't use it I wouldn't need to complain about it. Its slide ever-closer to Chrome-hood is why we're disappointed.

by causi 3y ago

mrguyorama 3y ago

Here's the thing: Mozilla could literally be shipping 2012 firefox, and I wouldn't give a fuck, and I would still use it. Why? Because they don't spend their days trying to make the internet a more ad infested dumpster fire and prevent me from blocking ads. Google is actively doing that every single fucking day with thousands of people working towards this goal, with Chrome being an essential tool in that process, as whatever chrome does, everyone else will be forced to do. Why the fuck would you enable that, even for a little "convenience"?

FeepingCreature 3y ago
> Mozilla could literally be shipping 2012 firefox That's called "Waterfox Classic".

godelski 3y ago

> We've been saying the same things as we watch Mozilla slowly strangle Firefox to death for a decade. Absolutely not true. I still hear people talking about FF as if it is pre-quantum. They complain about how slow it is. But quantum made it faster and more secure overnight. There's still a lot of people who are complaining and have just never tried it after the big issues were fixed. Or they try it, there's a small cognitive dissonance because checks notes "the interface is horrible", and so they call it slow attempting to justify why they dislike it rather than making an actual criticism or giving it a fair shot. Come on, the UI is almost identical across the board with browsers. And we're doing this for what... to give Google more power over the internet? I'm sorry, I think it is you who are confusing cause and effect. You participated in the monopolization of browsers and are suffering the consequences of it. Because of a little convenience. The path to hell is indeed paved with "good intentions." Little steps is all it takes to make progress over decades. Unless you can tell me there's a huge major problem with FF that outweighs the ad focused internet, then you have it backwards.

causi 3y ago
I'm sorry, I think it is you who are confusing cause and effect. You participated in the monopolization of browsers and are suffering the consequences of it. Because of a little convenience. The path to hell is indeed paved with "good intentions." Firefox has been my browser of choice since v1.5. If I didn't use it I wouldn't need to complain about it. Its slide ever-closer to Chrome-hood is why we're disappointed.