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Perhaps that is because they screw you over in secret? Whenever Firefox makes a mistake it gets very publicised, but whenever chrome does it it's just business

Perhaps that is because they screw you over in secret? Whenever Firefox makes a mistake it gets very publicised, but whenever chrome does it it's just business as normal so no one really publicises it.

Nextgrid 3y ago
As far as I know Chrome doesn't use every possible opportunity to nag you about self-righteous BS on how they're better and more private than everyone else? It's one thing to make a mistake or do user-hostile decisions inline with your business model. But it's another to loudly shout about how "good" you are (and everyone else is bad) and then do the exact same thing. Same reason why a policeman or some law-enforcement figure gets more outrage for committing a crime than a normal citizen.
- mrguyorama 3y ago
  Are you pretending that chrome doesn't advertise? Every single fucking day for a decade now, google.com told me to install chrome, and would even render "pop up" dialogs to that effect on google properties!! What are you all smoking?
  - Nextgrid 3y ago
    An ad telling you to install Chrome is one thing. I don't believe any Google nor Chrome ad had self-righteous BS about privacy, "improving the web" or similar like Mozilla constantly does. Also, ads on websites are one thing. Ads/nags within the browser itself (which I'm already using) are another. I'm pretty sure Google doesn't bother advertising Chrome to users who already use Chrome.
    - mrguyorama 3y ago
      Okay, then how should mozilla fund firefox? They don't have billions upon billions in advertising revenue to backstop a project that exists only to exert more influence and control of the internet. God damn, people act like money grows on trees when it comes to firefox. I don't care if they flub an attempt at advertising, like the Mr Robot nonsense, because mozilla isn't actively pushing "standards" meant to prevent me from some day being anonymous on the internet or blocking advertising
      - Nextgrid 3y ago
        > Okay, then how should mozilla fund firefox? Virtue-signalling and wasting people's times does not contribute to funding either. I'd disagree with but understand actual ads, or promotions for Pocket/VPN/etc... but wasting users' time on virtue-signalling or "Colorways"? (look at my other comments for actual long-term funding ideas for Firefox)
    - godelski 3y ago
      > I don't believe any Google nor Chrome ad had self-righteous BS about privacy, "improving the web" or similar I constantly see Chrome ads about privacy and security. Your argument also isn't consistent. Your complaint is that Mozilla has "failed" to achieve their stated goals. The quotes because they've definitely made progress towards that, but just not to your expectations. That is fine to have higher expectations, but you're literally discouraging Mozilla from working in that direction, where others aren't making those moves __at all__. Don't bite the hand that feeds you. And can we stop copy pasting that line? You're starting to sound like a bot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyUIEYE13jE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyUIEYE13jE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfXnLAa6zWc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfXnLAa6zWc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9_3umb5LY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9_3umb5LY

Nextgrid 3y ago

As far as I know Chrome doesn't use every possible opportunity to nag you about self-righteous BS on how they're better and more private than everyone else? It's one thing to make a mistake or do user-hostile decisions inline with your business model. But it's another to loudly shout about how "good" you are (and everyone else is bad) and then do the exact same thing. Same reason why a policeman or some law-enforcement figure gets more outrage for committing a crime than a normal citizen.

mrguyorama 3y ago
Are you pretending that chrome doesn't advertise? Every single fucking day for a decade now, google.com told me to install chrome, and would even render "pop up" dialogs to that effect on google properties!! What are you all smoking?
- Nextgrid 3y ago
  An ad telling you to install Chrome is one thing. I don't believe any Google nor Chrome ad had self-righteous BS about privacy, "improving the web" or similar like Mozilla constantly does. Also, ads on websites are one thing. Ads/nags within the browser itself (which I'm already using) are another. I'm pretty sure Google doesn't bother advertising Chrome to users who already use Chrome.
  - mrguyorama 3y ago
    Okay, then how should mozilla fund firefox? They don't have billions upon billions in advertising revenue to backstop a project that exists only to exert more influence and control of the internet. God damn, people act like money grows on trees when it comes to firefox. I don't care if they flub an attempt at advertising, like the Mr Robot nonsense, because mozilla isn't actively pushing "standards" meant to prevent me from some day being anonymous on the internet or blocking advertising
    - Nextgrid 3y ago
      > Okay, then how should mozilla fund firefox? Virtue-signalling and wasting people's times does not contribute to funding either. I'd disagree with but understand actual ads, or promotions for Pocket/VPN/etc... but wasting users' time on virtue-signalling or "Colorways"? (look at my other comments for actual long-term funding ideas for Firefox)
  - godelski 3y ago
    > I don't believe any Google nor Chrome ad had self-righteous BS about privacy, "improving the web" or similar I constantly see Chrome ads about privacy and security. Your argument also isn't consistent. Your complaint is that Mozilla has "failed" to achieve their stated goals. The quotes because they've definitely made progress towards that, but just not to your expectations. That is fine to have higher expectations, but you're literally discouraging Mozilla from working in that direction, where others aren't making those moves __at all__. Don't bite the hand that feeds you. And can we stop copy pasting that line? You're starting to sound like a bot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyUIEYE13jE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyUIEYE13jE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfXnLAa6zWc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfXnLAa6zWc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9_3umb5LY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9_3umb5LY