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I find it very interesting how awareness of climate change (and let’s not forget: the price of energy) has had so much impact on my and others’ judgement in a r

I find it very interesting how awareness of climate change (and let’s not forget: the price of energy) has had so much impact on my and others’ judgement in a relatively short time. 5-10 years ago I would think this is perfectly fine. I believe I was not alone in this, but maybe I was. The energy would have cost pennies too and why whine about it? Now I think it’s exorbitant as well, for me. The F150 etc, it’s telling a different story now. I do think it’s kind of below the belt to snipe any single culture for this. It’s too easy to target Americans. I don’t know about this guy’s life. Maybe he has a ranch with 20 square miles of renewables and I don’t care actually. It’s just personal reflection.

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alex3305 3y ago
> 5-10 years ago I would think this is perfectly fine. I believe I was not alone in this, but maybe I was. The energy would have cost pennies too and why whine about it? When I moved into my own home (8 years ago) I brought my 'homeserver' with me. Which was just a simple i5-2600 build with some shucked drives in it. I never thought about electricity prices when I lived with my parents. But that changed rather fast. With the server gobbling up a constant 90W, I quickly realized that, even back than, it would cost me 15 euro's a month on electricity alone. I than proceeded to put a Pi next to it, that would listen to incoming Plex requests and would start up and shut down the server with WoL. That only reduced costs by about a third. The next couple of years I would move on to a NUC with a NAS that would only consume about 29W/h on average. Which was decent, but not great considering the poor performance of both machines (J4105 and J1800). Last month I have gone back to the DIY route. Now with a i5-13500. I'm still in the process of optimizing it for power efficiency. Although much more stressful than the prebuilts, I love the hunt for the last watt. Anyway, what I wanted to say is that I notice that family and friends don't really care about saving power in general. They mostly just pay for it and there's that. While my house runs 100% on electricity and I'm really proud if I can get 9kWh/day on average. Even when I see that (for example) the 8-bit guy uses 100kWh/day on average [1]. Which seems out of this world for me. 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXd-aP06lug&t=45s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXd-aP06lug&t=45s
- djhn 3y ago
  Hold on a second - how large of a household are we talking? House or apartment? What consumes all that power? Electric vehicle? Work from home? I'm environmentally conscious (0 cars, 0 pets) but I haven't spent any time measuring and optimising electricity usage. I've had a look at my own electricity usage every once in a while, now averaging 48 kWh/month (between 38 and 68) for a larger than average apartment for two people.
  - Karrot_Kream 3y ago
    48 kWh / month is amazing! That's 4 kWh / day. Just cooking on our induction burner and instant pot can use up 1 kWh on a day with lots of meal prep.
    - djhn 3y ago
      Interesting. Maybe our brand new kitchen appliances are more energy efficient?
    - alex3305 3y ago
      Isn't 48 kWh/month = ~1.6 kWh/day? That seems impossible. Even 4kWh / day seems impossible for me. I exclusively use electricity, except for heating. My water heater alone consumes about 2kWh/day. Not even talking about cooking, using my computer or watching tv.
- bjornasm 3y ago
  >I than proceeded to put a Pi next to it, that would listen to incoming Plex requests and would start up and shut down the server with WoL. How hard is this to configure? I have a server at home I use to run a database and computational heavy code, however I am the only user so realistically it is only in use 8 hours a day and some weekends etc. However in the fear of forgetting to turn it on before I go to work (or if I suddenly find time to work while away) I find that I default to leave it on. Being able to control it would be fantastic.
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alex3305 3y ago

> 5-10 years ago I would think this is perfectly fine. I believe I was not alone in this, but maybe I was. The energy would have cost pennies too and why whine about it? When I moved into my own home (8 years ago) I brought my 'homeserver' with me. Which was just a simple i5-2600 build with some shucked drives in it. I never thought about electricity prices when I lived with my parents. But that changed rather fast. With the server gobbling up a constant 90W, I quickly realized that, even back than, it would cost me 15 euro's a month on electricity alone. I than proceeded to put a Pi next to it, that would listen to incoming Plex requests and would start up and shut down the server with WoL. That only reduced costs by about a third. The next couple of years I would move on to a NUC with a NAS that would only consume about 29W/h on average. Which was decent, but not great considering the poor performance of both machines (J4105 and J1800). Last month I have gone back to the DIY route. Now with a i5-13500. I'm still in the process of optimizing it for power efficiency. Although much more stressful than the prebuilts, I love the hunt for the last watt. Anyway, what I wanted to say is that I notice that family and friends don't really care about saving power in general. They mostly just pay for it and there's that. While my house runs 100% on electricity and I'm really proud if I can get 9kWh/day on average. Even when I see that (for example) the 8-bit guy uses 100kWh/day on average [1]. Which seems out of this world for me. 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXd-aP06lug&t=45s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXd-aP06lug&t=45s

djhn 3y ago
Hold on a second - how large of a household are we talking? House or apartment? What consumes all that power? Electric vehicle? Work from home? I'm environmentally conscious (0 cars, 0 pets) but I haven't spent any time measuring and optimising electricity usage. I've had a look at my own electricity usage every once in a while, now averaging 48 kWh/month (between 38 and 68) for a larger than average apartment for two people.
- Karrot_Kream 3y ago
  48 kWh / month is amazing! That's 4 kWh / day. Just cooking on our induction burner and instant pot can use up 1 kWh on a day with lots of meal prep.
  - djhn 3y ago
    Interesting. Maybe our brand new kitchen appliances are more energy efficient?
  - alex3305 3y ago
    Isn't 48 kWh/month = ~1.6 kWh/day? That seems impossible. Even 4kWh / day seems impossible for me. I exclusively use electricity, except for heating. My water heater alone consumes about 2kWh/day. Not even talking about cooking, using my computer or watching tv.
bjornasm 3y ago
>I than proceeded to put a Pi next to it, that would listen to incoming Plex requests and would start up and shut down the server with WoL. How hard is this to configure? I have a server at home I use to run a database and computational heavy code, however I am the only user so realistically it is only in use 8 hours a day and some weekends etc. However in the fear of forgetting to turn it on before I go to work (or if I suddenly find time to work while away) I find that I default to leave it on. Being able to control it would be fantastic.
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