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Finally I can get off Firefox Nightly and move to the stable release

friend_and_foe 3y ago
Or you can get off Firefox and stop feeling like a kicked dog all the time. It doesn't have to be a chromium fork either, there's iceraven.
- c0nducktr 3y ago
  What does iceraven get you compared to firefox?
  - doctor_radium 3y ago
    Iceraven's reason for existence has been about allowing (pretty much?) all Firefox addons since day one. And about:config. Wish you hadn't downvoted him.
    - friend_and_foe 3y ago
      Yep, and I still have to deal with my settings being reset every time I update, their user hostile UX flows, strange highlights on web page elements, and all the other stuff Firefox says aren't important to users. But I do it, why? So that all those scaremongers who screech "but you have to use Firefox! Otherwise youre helping the evil only other game in town!" like they always do don't have a single argument. Mozilla shows utter disdain for their users with just about every announcement, update, new feature or new restriction. The irrationality with which people defend them is jarringly similar to a cult, it's really unsettling. I just want a web browser that doesn't feel like it fucking hates me.
      - orra 3y ago
        > Mozilla shows utter disdain for their users with just about every announcement, update, new feature or new restriction This is absolute hyperbole. Have you forgotten the context? You're on a story about full extension support being implemented, which is exactly what you wanted.
        friend_and_foe 3y ago
        Taking that away was just the last straw. Trust has been broken, and I don't like being bullshitted and abused, and then brow beaten and guilt tripped for not liking it. I use tools that respect me and do what I need them to do, I refuse to be herded into a set of acceptable behaviors and thoughts like a cow, and by a corporation no less. The people making decisions at Mozilla should be ashamed of themselves.
        prmoustache 3y ago
        > and I don't like being bullshitted and abused, and then brow beaten and guilt tripped for not liking it. So after your lil'karen rant you switched to proprietary browsers that do worst?
        friend_and_foe 3y ago
        I don't use proprietary software period.
      - phatfish 3y ago
        Firefox works fine for me, setting have never been reset. Feels like you have some other issues to work out unrelated to free software.
        friend_and_foe 3y ago
        Go into about:config, turn off video autoplay and then update your browser, see if it persists.
      - mrguyorama 3y ago
        >my settings being reset every time I update, their user hostile UX flows, strange highlights on web page elements I have used firefox since 2007. I have used the exact same firefox PROFILE, that I simply copy from device to device when I set them up, for 10 years now. I have NEVER ONCE lost ANY settings. Maybe you're on a weird linux distro and the package manager does dumb things?
    - c0nducktr 3y ago
      > Wish you hadn't downvoted him. If this directed at me, well, I didn't downvote anybody. I saw the parent post being downvoted a bunch, and wanted to know what they were talking about. I don't currently have an Android phone. Having a better browser is one of the few things which would want me to move from iOS. It was an honest question.
      - c0nducktr 3y ago
        Edit: btw, I had originally upvoted them, even though their original statement was a little rude, and now flagged off the page (I think).
      - doctor_radium 3y ago
        Sorry then. Just working off context clues.
        c0nducktr 3y ago
        No worries. Are you able to set Firefox as the default browser for Android for the whole phone? For instance, if I clicked on a link in an app, would uBlock Origin filter everything loaded? i.e, the app loaded the page in the same app, can I have that rendering engine set to Firefox with Ublock? Edit: Sorry for anyone reading this, I know I'm using the wrong terms, hopefully you know what I mean.
        Jailbird 3y ago
        Chiming in: on my Android, I do have FF Nightly as my default browser for the whole phone. Recently some Google apps have begun to use Chrome, ignoring the system setting, but mostly, the setting is honored. There might be a few other exceptions but again... mostly honored. (Phone is a Samsung Galaxy S23)
  - friend_and_foe 3y ago
    I've had access to all these extensions with it for years. Which tells me this restriction Firefox has had this whole time was not technical and their explanations were a bunch of bullshit.
ReadCarlBarks 3y ago
You didn't need to be using Firefox Nightly. Collections have been available on Firefox Beta for several months.

Or you can get off Firefox and stop feeling like a kicked dog all the time. It doesn't have to be a chromium fork either, there's iceraven.

c0nducktr 3y ago
What does iceraven get you compared to firefox?
- doctor_radium 3y ago
  Iceraven's reason for existence has been about allowing (pretty much?) all Firefox addons since day one. And about:config. Wish you hadn't downvoted him.
  - friend_and_foe 3y ago
    Yep, and I still have to deal with my settings being reset every time I update, their user hostile UX flows, strange highlights on web page elements, and all the other stuff Firefox says aren't important to users. But I do it, why? So that all those scaremongers who screech "but you have to use Firefox! Otherwise youre helping the evil only other game in town!" like they always do don't have a single argument. Mozilla shows utter disdain for their users with just about every announcement, update, new feature or new restriction. The irrationality with which people defend them is jarringly similar to a cult, it's really unsettling. I just want a web browser that doesn't feel like it fucking hates me.
    - orra 3y ago
      > Mozilla shows utter disdain for their users with just about every announcement, update, new feature or new restriction This is absolute hyperbole. Have you forgotten the context? You're on a story about full extension support being implemented, which is exactly what you wanted.
      - friend_and_foe 3y ago
        Taking that away was just the last straw. Trust has been broken, and I don't like being bullshitted and abused, and then brow beaten and guilt tripped for not liking it. I use tools that respect me and do what I need them to do, I refuse to be herded into a set of acceptable behaviors and thoughts like a cow, and by a corporation no less. The people making decisions at Mozilla should be ashamed of themselves.
        prmoustache 3y ago
        > and I don't like being bullshitted and abused, and then brow beaten and guilt tripped for not liking it. So after your lil'karen rant you switched to proprietary browsers that do worst?
        friend_and_foe 3y ago
        I don't use proprietary software period.
    - phatfish 3y ago
      Firefox works fine for me, setting have never been reset. Feels like you have some other issues to work out unrelated to free software.
      - friend_and_foe 3y ago
        Go into about:config, turn off video autoplay and then update your browser, see if it persists.
    - mrguyorama 3y ago
      >my settings being reset every time I update, their user hostile UX flows, strange highlights on web page elements I have used firefox since 2007. I have used the exact same firefox PROFILE, that I simply copy from device to device when I set them up, for 10 years now. I have NEVER ONCE lost ANY settings. Maybe you're on a weird linux distro and the package manager does dumb things?
  - c0nducktr 3y ago
    > Wish you hadn't downvoted him. If this directed at me, well, I didn't downvote anybody. I saw the parent post being downvoted a bunch, and wanted to know what they were talking about. I don't currently have an Android phone. Having a better browser is one of the few things which would want me to move from iOS. It was an honest question.
    - c0nducktr 3y ago
      Edit: btw, I had originally upvoted them, even though their original statement was a little rude, and now flagged off the page (I think).
    - doctor_radium 3y ago
      Sorry then. Just working off context clues.
      - c0nducktr 3y ago
        No worries. Are you able to set Firefox as the default browser for Android for the whole phone? For instance, if I clicked on a link in an app, would uBlock Origin filter everything loaded? i.e, the app loaded the page in the same app, can I have that rendering engine set to Firefox with Ublock? Edit: Sorry for anyone reading this, I know I'm using the wrong terms, hopefully you know what I mean.
        Jailbird 3y ago
        Chiming in: on my Android, I do have FF Nightly as my default browser for the whole phone. Recently some Google apps have begun to use Chrome, ignoring the system setting, but mostly, the setting is honored. There might be a few other exceptions but again... mostly honored. (Phone is a Samsung Galaxy S23)
- friend_and_foe 3y ago
  I've had access to all these extensions with it for years. Which tells me this restriction Firefox has had this whole time was not technical and their explanations were a bunch of bullshit.

ReadCarlBarks 3y ago

You didn't need to be using Firefox Nightly. Collections have been available on Firefox Beta for several months.