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Do you seriously think it would be hard for OpenAI to give GPT-4 a timer? The point of a Turing test is a passive evaluation of how intelligent a bot is. It's

Do you seriously think it would be hard for OpenAI to give GPT-4 a timer? The point of a Turing test is a passive evaluation of how intelligent a bot is. It's not a test that OpenAI is trying to pass.

TaylorAlexander 3y ago
You misunderstand me. To me, a Turing test is passed when the interviewer cannot distinguish between a robot and a human. If OpenAI were to add a special timer function to GPT-4, then that specific question would no longer work to tell the difference, but that specific question is just one example of many types of questions one can use to tell that GPT-4 is not a human. GPT-4 with a clock does not change the fact that there are many ways to tell it is not human. > The point of a Turing test is a passive evaluation of how intelligent a bot is. I don't know what "the point" of the test is (that is subjective) but I know how the test works. You create a system where a tester and a subject can pass messages to each other but cannot see each other (so a chat system is great for this) and then the tester tries to determine if the subject is a robot or a person. If the tester cannot tell if the subject is a human or a robot, the robot has passed the test. Many people have pointed out the test is not necessarily useful for evaluating AI! An AGI may be extremely intelligent and useful and still not pass the Turing test, but it would nonetheless be true that it did not pass. However a highly intelligent AGI would probably be good at pretending to be a human. > It's not a test that OpenAI is trying to pass. We are in agreement on this. They are not trying to pass this test and their current system can not pass it. This is why I say the current system cannot pass a Turing test. I am not talking about a theoretical future system!

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Do you seriously think it would be hard for OpenAI to give GPT-4 a timer? The point of a Turing test is a passive evaluation of how intelligent a bot is. It's

by justrealist 3y ago

TaylorAlexander 3y ago
You misunderstand me. To me, a Turing test is passed when the interviewer cannot distinguish between a robot and a human. If OpenAI were to add a special timer function to GPT-4, then that specific question would no longer work to tell the difference, but that specific question is just one example of many types of questions one can use to tell that GPT-4 is not a human. GPT-4 with a clock does not change the fact that there are many ways to tell it is not human. > The point of a Turing test is a passive evaluation of how intelligent a bot is. I don't know what "the point" of the test is (that is subjective) but I know how the test works. You create a system where a tester and a subject can pass messages to each other but cannot see each other (so a chat system is great for this) and then the tester tries to determine if the subject is a robot or a person. If the tester cannot tell if the subject is a human or a robot, the robot has passed the test. Many people have pointed out the test is not necessarily useful for evaluating AI! An AGI may be extremely intelligent and useful and still not pass the Turing test, but it would nonetheless be true that it did not pass. However a highly intelligent AGI would probably be good at pretending to be a human. > It's not a test that OpenAI is trying to pass. We are in agreement on this. They are not trying to pass this test and their current system can not pass it. This is why I say the current system cannot pass a Turing test. I am not talking about a theoretical future system!