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This does seem like the logical conclusion. Disney/Hulu/peacock/espn dominate market due to historical and current content. Disney first cuts off Netflix from

This does seem like the logical conclusion. Disney/Hulu/peacock/espn dominate market due to historical and current content. Disney first cuts off Netflix from any and all owned content. Disney buys netflix. Disney removes adfree plan. Disney raises prices back to cable tv levels. Piracy surges. Netflix 2 comes out and we repeat the cycle.

lopis 3y ago
There's currently no oxygen left for a Netflix 2 to emerge. Netflix came out in a vacuum of streaming options and being the first to gain global adoption, everyone wanted their content on Netflix.
- jvalencia 3y ago
  Netflix 2 will be an AI generated studio that makes big budget films cheaply and owns all the rights. The code will largely be generated. They will not need actors/writers/tech people in the way that netflix does. So their margins will be large enough to sustain the streaming / generation.
  - agubelu 3y ago
    I've seen ChatGPT introduce pretty obvious bugs when asked to produce a simple chunk of code. I don't find it believable in the slightest that a significant portion of the code required to build and operate a large-scale service can be autogenerated.
    - blovescoffee 3y ago
      You can't imagine it will improve in the future?
      - agubelu 3y ago
        Improve? Sure. Improve enough to produce something in the order of millions of lines of code, maintaining internal consistency and implementing a well-thought, efficient and fault-tolerant software architecture? I don't see it happening in the short/medium term.
        jvalencia 3y ago
        I would disagree. The problem here is the same problem that plagues contractors working in multiple global time-zones. Lack of clear communication and guidelines creates a mess. If there is the right structures and algorithms, I do think the current tech could create some very large outputs. That said, there would need to be a host of manager/reviewers who knew how to wrangle the right "answers" at various steps.
    - notnmeyer 3y ago
      it butchered my idea for a curb your enthusiasm spec script
  - toyg 3y ago
    It looks like, in the ranks of HN posters, cryptobros have been replaced by AInuts.
  - newaccount74 3y ago
    I'd argue that AI will never be as original and creative as a human, but most of the stuff on Netflix is already so predictable that I'm not actually sure that's a good argument.
  - lopis 3y ago
    I really can't imagine that happening int he near future. Anything less than perfect when it comes to how AI generated faces look seems to fall in the uncanny valley. But script-wise, if Riverdale shown us anything is that scripts don't really need to make much sense to fair relatively well in Netflix.
lotsofpulp 3y ago
Disney is in no financial position to buy Netflix.
- hightrix 3y ago
  Today, you are absolutely right. If rights holders continue to reduce the available of premium content on Netflix, the situation may not be the same in a few years. Netflix content alone can’t sustain the platform, imo.
  - toyg 3y ago
    Well, in theory it could - if it weren't so terrible and formulaic.
  - scarby2 3y ago
    I think this is where you're wrong. I can't remember the last time I watched any non-Netflix content on Netflix. They're also adept at funding international content at a fraction of the price of US content. Assuming AI doesn't take over filmmaking I can see a future fairly soon were Netflix are making a ton of English language content in Africa/India/Eastern Europe. Or they are making international content and using AI to generate English vocals and lip sync.
    - lopis 3y ago
      > I can't remember the last time I watched any non-Netflix content on Netflix. But that's exactly the point, isn't it? Netflix is popular today because it used to be the place where you could stream almost anything. Now you can only watch Netflix shows and movies, and some other low quality content or older shows and movies. Can Netflix keep up with more established media behemoths in producing enough content to keep its user base from flocking to Disney when they have all the most popular series and blockbusters?
grotorea 3y ago
But why remove the adfree plan?
Obscurity4340 3y ago
Its like The Matrix.

lopis 3y ago

There's currently no oxygen left for a Netflix 2 to emerge. Netflix came out in a vacuum of streaming options and being the first to gain global adoption, everyone wanted their content on Netflix.

jvalencia 3y ago
Netflix 2 will be an AI generated studio that makes big budget films cheaply and owns all the rights. The code will largely be generated. They will not need actors/writers/tech people in the way that netflix does. So their margins will be large enough to sustain the streaming / generation.
- agubelu 3y ago
  I've seen ChatGPT introduce pretty obvious bugs when asked to produce a simple chunk of code. I don't find it believable in the slightest that a significant portion of the code required to build and operate a large-scale service can be autogenerated.
  - blovescoffee 3y ago
    You can't imagine it will improve in the future?
    - agubelu 3y ago
      Improve? Sure. Improve enough to produce something in the order of millions of lines of code, maintaining internal consistency and implementing a well-thought, efficient and fault-tolerant software architecture? I don't see it happening in the short/medium term.
      - jvalencia 3y ago
        I would disagree. The problem here is the same problem that plagues contractors working in multiple global time-zones. Lack of clear communication and guidelines creates a mess. If there is the right structures and algorithms, I do think the current tech could create some very large outputs. That said, there would need to be a host of manager/reviewers who knew how to wrangle the right "answers" at various steps.
  - notnmeyer 3y ago
    it butchered my idea for a curb your enthusiasm spec script
- toyg 3y ago
  It looks like, in the ranks of HN posters, cryptobros have been replaced by AInuts.
- newaccount74 3y ago
  I'd argue that AI will never be as original and creative as a human, but most of the stuff on Netflix is already so predictable that I'm not actually sure that's a good argument.
- lopis 3y ago
  I really can't imagine that happening int he near future. Anything less than perfect when it comes to how AI generated faces look seems to fall in the uncanny valley. But script-wise, if Riverdale shown us anything is that scripts don't really need to make much sense to fair relatively well in Netflix.

lotsofpulp 3y ago

Disney is in no financial position to buy Netflix.

hightrix 3y ago
Today, you are absolutely right. If rights holders continue to reduce the available of premium content on Netflix, the situation may not be the same in a few years. Netflix content alone can’t sustain the platform, imo.
- toyg 3y ago
  Well, in theory it could - if it weren't so terrible and formulaic.
- scarby2 3y ago
  I think this is where you're wrong. I can't remember the last time I watched any non-Netflix content on Netflix. They're also adept at funding international content at a fraction of the price of US content. Assuming AI doesn't take over filmmaking I can see a future fairly soon were Netflix are making a ton of English language content in Africa/India/Eastern Europe. Or they are making international content and using AI to generate English vocals and lip sync.
  - lopis 3y ago
    > I can't remember the last time I watched any non-Netflix content on Netflix. But that's exactly the point, isn't it? Netflix is popular today because it used to be the place where you could stream almost anything. Now you can only watch Netflix shows and movies, and some other low quality content or older shows and movies. Can Netflix keep up with more established media behemoths in producing enough content to keep its user base from flocking to Disney when they have all the most popular series and blockbusters?

grotorea 3y ago

But why remove the adfree plan?

Obscurity4340 3y ago

Its like The Matrix.