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I've always felt us removing things like tonsils and appendix without a high barrier was always premature. I remember kids wanting to have their tonsils removed
by xeromal 3y ago
I've always felt us removing things like tonsils and appendix without a high barrier was always premature. I remember kids wanting to have their tonsils removed to eat ice cream for a few weeks. lol.
Even if we have legacy parts in out body, I'm fine just letting it fester in my body as long as it's not trying to kill me.
Feels very similar to thinking farming just needs 3 nutrients. Turns out better farming requires a lot more.
I am just a plain old bozo though so I could be talking out me ass
- hsur8192 3y agoIt appears that Chesterton’s Fence applies to bio-science as well!
- xeromal 3y agoVery applicable to programming too. I'm pretty conservative as a programmer and I've had coworkers want to completely change a segment but you never know why some weird programming was done. There be dragons sometimes.
- jaggederest 3y agoAs a software engineer who has sometimes specifically specialized in handling dragons, I always try to leave (sometimes voluminous) comments about why a thing was handled that way when it's not obvious to a surface reading. Good practice in general but particularly so when you find a heisenbug that must be exterminated.
- tgv 3y agoThe ice cream was to ease the pain. The cold calms the exposed nerves.
- xeromal 3y agoMakes sense. I was very jealous of my friends at the time but I never took mine out. I just get mad tonsil stones now. lol
- orev 3y agoThey did not express any indication that they didn’t understand why ice cream is often recommended, so you don’t need to be explaining it. The point of the comment is that kids don’t understand what’s going on, only hear about the ice cream thing, and then want the same procedure just so they can eat ice cream for a week.
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- randomdata 3y agoExcept they demonstrated interest in the response. Further, they are not the only person who reads the comments. Others may be interested to know the relationship between ice cream and tonsils.
- tjohns 3y agoThe ice cream was a lie. After I had my tonsils removed, even the thought of solid food was out of the question. It was just too painful. You can have as much ice cream as you want. What they don't tell you is you won't want any. :P
- adolph 3y agoWouldn't the exposed nerves make the pain of "brain freeze" more likely? Anyway, the relationship of tonsils and ice cream was established by Richard Scarry in "What do people do all day?" [0] 0. https://books.google.com/books?id=tuqKDQAAQBAJ&pg=PA45 https://books.google.com/books?id=tuqKDQAAQBAJ&pg=PA45
- ipython 3y agoI encourage you to read the book “Madeline” for more information on this phenomenon.
- SamBam 3y agoAll the little girls cried "Boohoo, we want to have our appendix out, too!"
- darkclouds 3y agoI thought tryptophan used to be added to icecream in the 70's and 80's until the tryptophan scare that caused Eosinophilia–myalgia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eosinophilia%E2%80%93myalgia_syndrome https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eosinophilia%E2%80%93myalgia_s...
- maximilianburke 3y agoI think we're getting better about non-surgical interventions when it's not necessary. Appendicitis can, and is, treated with antibiotics, but the timing has to be spot on otherwise it needs to come out. I had to have mine removed because by the time I was seen in the hospital it had already burst. I think the only time that people pre-emptively remove appendixes is when you can't risk the chance of a burst; like if you're the over-winter physician at Amunden Scott South Pole station
- bluepod4 3y ago> Appendicitis can, and is, treated with antibiotics Yeah, kids don’t get tonsils removed anymore either. Just antibiotics.
- ReallyAnonymous 3y agosurgeon here: antibiotic treatment works great as long as there's no peritonitis and/or no appendicolith seen on CT. However, statistics show that 30% of successfully treated patients go on to get appendicitis again within 1 year. Anyway, I offer my patients a choice. Most choose surgery. Those conscientious enough without insurance usually choose nonoperative management because it's much cheaper.
- nicup12345689 3y agoThe 30% is because people do not change their diet so they'll once again be susceptible.
- robbiep 3y agoNo it’s not, you’ve got no idea what you’re talking about. There isn’t an ‘appendicitis’ diet
- nicup12345689 3y agoWho said that there is an appendicitis diet? The fact is they eat a certain way, and got appendicitis. Are we to pretend all diets are the same? Am I to pretend it is a religious mystery/miracle and no ones knows? Or genetics? Please, enlighten us...
- hinkley 3y agoI had my tonsils out for what at the time we thought was legitimate reasons, but well after they started phasing out the practice. I recall when I woke up my throat didn't hurt (possibly due to painkillers), and when they brought ice cream and popsicles to sooth my pain I felt like a fraud. But the experience up to that point was traumatic to put it lightly, so you're damned right I was going to get all of the treats I could wrangle.
- readthenotes1 3y agoChesterton's Fence
- outworlder 3y ago> I've always felt us removing things like tonsils and appendix without a high barrier was always premature. Add circumcisions to the list.
- midoridensha 3y agoThere was never a medical reason for those, only religious. American doctors tried to invent a medical reason, but those are the same doctors who told people that smoking is good for you because the tobacco companies paid them to.
- stephen_g 3y agoThere are some medical reasons (I know from experience) post-puberty, just not for doing it at birth.
- midoridensha 3y agoSorry, I forgot to mention that; you're absolutely correct, but that's for a tiny number of people who actually have some medical problem where circumcision is a viable remedy. I meant medical reasons for doing it to all male infants as some sort of preventative procedure.
- Auracle 3y agoPre-puberty here, and as someone that was about 4 years old when my circumcision was done I can absolutely understand how ancient peoples would decide just to do every baby boy on the off chance they’d need it later.
- stephen_g 3y agoTrue, during the healing process I had the same thought! Would have been rather more convenient to have just had it done as a baby even if I hadn’t needed it!
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