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> It will provide an open process to access source code that organizations can use to build distributions compatible with RHEL So they're not trying to create

by pxc 3y ago

> It will provide an open process to access source code that organizations can use to build distributions compatible with RHEL So they're not trying to create something like RHEL but in a way that is committed to being more 'open' somehow. They're still shooting for the bug-for-bug stuff, and still an effort that's parasitic on RHEL in terms of its substantive development. This whole situation sucks.

eraser215 3y ago
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ddtaylor 3y ago
If you don't want other people using your source code should you be making open source software?
uberduper 3y ago
Seems like an obvious next step is to get enterprise hardware and software vendors to begin certifying on OpenELA in addition to RHEL. OpenELA10 or w/e could stand on its own as a competing enterprise linux standard that everyone is free to build from.
- pxc 3y ago
  > OpenELA10 or w/e could stand on its own as a competing enterprise linux standard that everyone is free to build from. Idk. How is that standing on its own? SUSE already has a perfectly good enterprise Linux distro in SLE. If the point is to have an alternative standard that anyone can build from, why not just use that as the base?
  - uberduper 3y ago
    Sure. SLE could become (the basis for) OpenELA10? Seems to me that all the RHEL derivatives were perfectly content to let RH set the standards for enterprise linux. RH doesn't like that arrangement. SUSE probably wouldn't mind it. All the derivatives have their EL8 and EL9 based distributions they've committed themselves to support for some time, so I'm sure they'll maintain bug for bug compatibility as best they can given the circumstances. No reason for them to keep following RH after that.
CaliforniaKarl 3y ago
RHEL does a lot of work, yes, but a lot of that comes from volunteers. RHEL does contribute kernel patches; but Oracle and SUSE contribute there, too.

by pxc 3y ago

eraser215 3y ago

100%

ddtaylor 3y ago

If you don't want other people using your source code should you be making open source software?

uberduper 3y ago

Seems like an obvious next step is to get enterprise hardware and software vendors to begin certifying on OpenELA in addition to RHEL. OpenELA10 or w/e could stand on its own as a competing enterprise linux standard that everyone is free to build from.

pxc 3y ago
> OpenELA10 or w/e could stand on its own as a competing enterprise linux standard that everyone is free to build from. Idk. How is that standing on its own? SUSE already has a perfectly good enterprise Linux distro in SLE. If the point is to have an alternative standard that anyone can build from, why not just use that as the base?
- uberduper 3y ago
  Sure. SLE could become (the basis for) OpenELA10? Seems to me that all the RHEL derivatives were perfectly content to let RH set the standards for enterprise linux. RH doesn't like that arrangement. SUSE probably wouldn't mind it. All the derivatives have their EL8 and EL9 based distributions they've committed themselves to support for some time, so I'm sure they'll maintain bug for bug compatibility as best they can given the circumstances. No reason for them to keep following RH after that.

CaliforniaKarl 3y ago

RHEL does a lot of work, yes, but a lot of that comes from volunteers. RHEL does contribute kernel patches; but Oracle and SUSE contribute there, too.