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This content is not on the internet. Can I also submit links to any local site that requires a subscription in order to view the article? Or does this specific

by jwr 3y ago

This content is not on the internet. Can I also submit links to any local site that requires a subscription in order to view the article? Or does this specific site get an exception?

krastanov 3y ago
Yes, you can submit any local site with a paywall. For what is worth, it is part of the "community guidelines" for HN to not complain about paywalls (see https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html ). Someone will probably post a pirated archive link shortly (edit: they already have).
- hinkley 3y ago
  Part of the community guidelines that we aren’t allowed to discuss is censorship. I get that we don’t want to spiral on discussing things, but can’t discuss them at all is draconian.
  - basch 3y ago
    Does your local library provide access to the new york times? I'm not sure a private company paying money to produce a story for paying customers quite qualifies as "censorship."
  - striking 3y ago
    The mod team have made themselves clear.[1][2] I'm not sure what more there is to say, you're not going to "discuss" 'dang into submission. 1: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10178989 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10178989 2: https://hn.algolia.com/?query=paywalls%20by:dang&dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?query=paywalls%20by:dang&dateRange=a...
    - hinkley 3y ago
      [1] was eight years ago. I’m not sure that’s how decisions work. But if anything more stuff is paywalled now I suspect I know how that would go.
- bee_rider 3y ago
  I’m perpetually surprised this otherwise mostly legit site is OK with us sharing links to pirated material.
- jwr 3y ago
  I think it is time to reconsider these guidelines. I believe that this community should stand for freely accessible information on the Internet. As it is, we are being gamed: we are used to upvote and popularize content behind paywalls. The owners do not make it freely available, but still get the benefits of the community. I have nothing against paywalls and paid content (in fact, I subscribe to news publications myself), but I believe they have no place on HN. Either it's on the Internet, or it isn't.
notpushkin 3y ago
> It's ok to post stories from sites with paywalls that have workarounds. In comments, it's ok to ask how to read an article and to help other users do so. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html
- barbazoo 3y ago
  Then why not post the workaround in the first place I wonder. Alternatively an ignorelist of domains would be nice.
peoplearepeople 3y ago
https://txtify.it/https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/07/realestate/microgrid-solar-power-energy.html https://txtify.it/https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/07/realest...

by jwr 3y ago

This content is not on the internet. Can I also submit links to any local site that requires a subscription in order to view the article? Or does this specific site get an exception?

krastanov 3y ago

Yes, you can submit any local site with a paywall. For what is worth, it is part of the "community guidelines" for HN to not complain about paywalls (see https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html ). Someone will probably post a pirated archive link shortly (edit: they already have).

hinkley 3y ago
Part of the community guidelines that we aren’t allowed to discuss is censorship. I get that we don’t want to spiral on discussing things, but can’t discuss them at all is draconian.
- basch 3y ago
  Does your local library provide access to the new york times? I'm not sure a private company paying money to produce a story for paying customers quite qualifies as "censorship."
- striking 3y ago
  The mod team have made themselves clear.[1][2] I'm not sure what more there is to say, you're not going to "discuss" 'dang into submission. 1: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10178989 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10178989 2: https://hn.algolia.com/?query=paywalls%20by:dang&dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?query=paywalls%20by:dang&dateRange=a...
  - hinkley 3y ago
    [1] was eight years ago. I’m not sure that’s how decisions work. But if anything more stuff is paywalled now I suspect I know how that would go.
bee_rider 3y ago
I’m perpetually surprised this otherwise mostly legit site is OK with us sharing links to pirated material.
jwr 3y ago
I think it is time to reconsider these guidelines. I believe that this community should stand for freely accessible information on the Internet. As it is, we are being gamed: we are used to upvote and popularize content behind paywalls. The owners do not make it freely available, but still get the benefits of the community. I have nothing against paywalls and paid content (in fact, I subscribe to news publications myself), but I believe they have no place on HN. Either it's on the Internet, or it isn't.

notpushkin 3y ago

> It's ok to post stories from sites with paywalls that have workarounds. In comments, it's ok to ask how to read an article and to help other users do so. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html

barbazoo 3y ago
Then why not post the workaround in the first place I wonder. Alternatively an ignorelist of domains would be nice.

peoplearepeople 3y ago

https://txtify.it/https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/07/realestate/microgrid-solar-power-energy.html https://txtify.it/https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/07/realest...