That argument doesn't work when you cant reliably distribute and run your own clients and given that they (Signal) have hidden updates for over a year to work o

That argument doesn't work when you cant reliably distribute and run your own clients and given that they (Signal) have hidden updates for over a year to work on mobilecoin in the dark (proving their willingness and ability to do this) it leaves little left for that argument; theres also a bunch of other stuff but that is meaningless to get into. The point is that Signal mostly also boils down to: “trust us”. On the other hand, while you are totally right about Telegram being quite a bit “trust us”; but they have better UX and are not at all hostile to third party clients and alternative implementations of their “secure” messaging protocol. Which is also the subject of a lot of controversy of course, because (*puts on tinfoil hat*) it was originally handrolled and not US cryptographer approved. (always get downvoted when I point out that Signal is doing weird stuff which only serves really to solidify my stance)