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I don't. Neovim have dropped "old useless" features which are the entire reason I use Vim.

by suprjami 3y ago

djtango 3y ago
I've not tried neovim mostly because I'm hopelessly loyal. curious what features were cut?
- suprjami 3y ago
  vim-cscope, which is the only reasonable way to read large C projects like the Linux kernel or BSD
  - School-Cotton 3y ago
    What’s wrong with clangd via lsp?
    - devnullbrain 3y ago
      n.b. LSP support was the reason cscope support was dropped
    - kps 3y ago
      For one thing, LSP (last I checked) was still unable to distinguish between read and write.
    - suprjami 3y ago
      You need to build the project to generate compilation database. I switch around kernel versions far too often for that to be viable.
random_mutex 3y ago
What features?
- suprjami 3y ago
  vim-cscope, which is the only reasonable way to read large C projects like the Linux kernel or BSD
  - random_mutex 3y ago
    A language server is way better than cscope ...if you can get clangd to work with your codebase.
    - suprjami 3y ago
      It works but I don't want to build the kernel to generate the compilation database every time I check out a new tag or branch. With BSD it would be even worse.
- kzrdude 3y ago
  One "meta feature" that was dropped was the ability to build the editor with or without different features. vim --version shows a long list of +/- features, neovim doesn't do that. I'm sure neovim dropped a lot but I don't have the full overview. Prominently it dropped support for giving !commands access to the actual tty. Commands that access the tty have to be used through the command :term instead. Neovim prominently dropped support for gvim as well (GTK UI). Instead they focus on being embeddable in new ways to create UIs.
  - devnullbrain 3y ago
    !pwd works for me in nvim, I use it every day
    - kps 3y ago
      Try something that uses input, e.g. a pager (`:!git log`), or a password (`:!sudo something`), or `:!top`, or something with even the simplest formatted output (`:!watch -n1 lsusb`).

I don't. Neovim have dropped "old useless" features which are the entire reason I use Vim.

djtango 3y ago

I've not tried neovim mostly because I'm hopelessly loyal. curious what features were cut?

suprjami 3y ago
vim-cscope, which is the only reasonable way to read large C projects like the Linux kernel or BSD
- School-Cotton 3y ago
  What’s wrong with clangd via lsp?
  - devnullbrain 3y ago
    n.b. LSP support was the reason cscope support was dropped
  - kps 3y ago
    For one thing, LSP (last I checked) was still unable to distinguish between read and write.
  - suprjami 3y ago
    You need to build the project to generate compilation database. I switch around kernel versions far too often for that to be viable.

random_mutex 3y ago

What features?

suprjami 3y ago
vim-cscope, which is the only reasonable way to read large C projects like the Linux kernel or BSD
- random_mutex 3y ago
  A language server is way better than cscope ...if you can get clangd to work with your codebase.
  - suprjami 3y ago
    It works but I don't want to build the kernel to generate the compilation database every time I check out a new tag or branch. With BSD it would be even worse.
kzrdude 3y ago
One "meta feature" that was dropped was the ability to build the editor with or without different features. vim --version shows a long list of +/- features, neovim doesn't do that. I'm sure neovim dropped a lot but I don't have the full overview. Prominently it dropped support for giving !commands access to the actual tty. Commands that access the tty have to be used through the command :term instead. Neovim prominently dropped support for gvim as well (GTK UI). Instead they focus on being embeddable in new ways to create UIs.
- devnullbrain 3y ago
  !pwd works for me in nvim, I use it every day
  - kps 3y ago
    Try something that uses input, e.g. a pager (`:!git log`), or a password (`:!sudo something`), or `:!top`, or something with even the simplest formatted output (`:!watch -n1 lsusb`).