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I get what you are saying, but I find parkers who do this to be selfish or at least unaware of how their actions affect others. In my experience, it takes more

I get what you are saying, but I find parkers who do this to be selfish or at least unaware of how their actions affect others. In my experience, it takes more time to fancy park, and much less to unpark. Whereas with normal parking, it’s much faster to park then unpark. So, in a busy parking lot (classically a grocery store lot on Saturday) fancy parkers make others wait on them while they park. Normal parkers have to wait on others when they leave.

jhoechtl 3y ago
The time you lose while parking you gain when leaving. It's a zero sum game.
- avidphantasm 3y ago
  I don’t get my time waiting for you to fancy park back. When I’m backing out, I have to wait until it’s clear to go. Fancy parkers parking get a mutex on their part of the row.
scott_w 3y ago
This is a totally bizarre opinion. Reverse parking is the only parking method taught in the UK (and thus the only one you're tested on). The reason you should use this (unless the car park is setup for forward parking bays) is that it's far, far safer. Forward parking means you need to exit by reversing, functionally blindly, into traffic or children walking across the rear of your car. Reverse parking means, when you exit, you can see cars wanting to be past, or children now walking across the front of your car. And no, you're not "trading" safety by reverse parking because, when you park, any obstacles would be directly behind you, as opposed to at an angle.
- dave333 3y ago
  This assumes we are talking about what is known in the US as parallel parking, i.e. parking on a street and not parking in a parking lot. Parking lots are the norm in the US.
  - scott_w 3y ago
    I don’t think we are. I’m talking about reversing into a parking space in a car park (parking lot). It’s generally accepted to be safer for the reasons I highlighted. That’s why I think calling it “selfish” is bizarre.
  - KolenCh 3y ago
    No, no, no. You completely missed the points here. And no, parking lots are not the "norm" in the US. Both parallel parking and parking lots are common in the US and in the UK as well.

jhoechtl 3y ago

The time you lose while parking you gain when leaving. It's a zero sum game.

avidphantasm 3y ago
I don’t get my time waiting for you to fancy park back. When I’m backing out, I have to wait until it’s clear to go. Fancy parkers parking get a mutex on their part of the row.

scott_w 3y ago

This is a totally bizarre opinion. Reverse parking is the only parking method taught in the UK (and thus the only one you're tested on). The reason you should use this (unless the car park is setup for forward parking bays) is that it's far, far safer. Forward parking means you need to exit by reversing, functionally blindly, into traffic or children walking across the rear of your car. Reverse parking means, when you exit, you can see cars wanting to be past, or children now walking across the front of your car. And no, you're not "trading" safety by reverse parking because, when you park, any obstacles would be directly behind you, as opposed to at an angle.

dave333 3y ago
This assumes we are talking about what is known in the US as parallel parking, i.e. parking on a street and not parking in a parking lot. Parking lots are the norm in the US.
- scott_w 3y ago
  I don’t think we are. I’m talking about reversing into a parking space in a car park (parking lot). It’s generally accepted to be safer for the reasons I highlighted. That’s why I think calling it “selfish” is bizarre.
- KolenCh 3y ago
  No, no, no. You completely missed the points here. And no, parking lots are not the "norm" in the US. Both parallel parking and parking lots are common in the US and in the UK as well.